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Originally posted by Bosse de NageThis seems close to saying that the Politeia is about an ideal state. Really it's not.
Of course, Plato would have had Burroughs expelled from the Republic for being a poet.
So difficult to read Plato nowadays... so many "interpretations" and theories of "Platonism".
Anyway... remember one thing and it will serve you well. Socrates is engaged in a battle over what it means to speak well. He's still, ironically, a sophist too.... not afraid of engaging in dirty tricks in order to tease forth ways ...structures..lenses which might coax lightning to strike the soul. But the careful reader will always see his hints here.
Originally posted by lucifershammerNo, just read it slowly, and if anything confuses you make a note of it. I don't presume to know what you will find interesting or worthwhile in the dialogue. Then, tomorrow, we can start from the beginning.
Maybe you can suggest a list of key questions/aspects that readers can focus on - to guide the reading.
Originally posted by bbarrArrggh, disaster strikes! I'm gonna have to visit my mother this weekend, so I won't be able to join in until after the weekend 🙁
Well, I'm going to start this up in a few hours, when I get back from teaching.
I did however have alecture tonight on the Apology, so hopefully I'm somewhat pre-armed. I'll contribute when I get back if htere's still any meat left to chew.