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@averagejoe1 saidIf only you'd kick that bee out of your bonnet, you'd realise how dishonest you sound.
USA Nordic USA Nordic?
@averagejoe1 saidIf only you'd kick that bee out of your bonnet, you'd realise how dishonest you sound.
USA Nordic USA Nordic?
@shallow-blue saidBut the question stands alone, does it not...no matter who asks it, even a guy with a bee in his bonnet. Could you give your opinion on this anomaly? About the USA not taking the Nordic concept under consideration?
If only you'd kick that bee out of your bonnet, you'd realise how dishonest you sound.
@averagejoe1 saidA good article in the Atlantic that explains things you can't or won't understand:
But the question stands alone, does it not...no matter who asks it, even a guy with a bee in his bonnet. Could you give your opinion on this anomaly? About the USA not taking the Nordic concept under consideration?
You seem to say it is about Me? Huh?
@shavixmir saidGoddamn, Shav, this is a great post.
Then it is pointless.
You want to know why your politicians and government and businesses are not as social as their European counterparts, you have to understand the historical context.
However, to suit your needs (with sweeping generalisations):
Europeans are volatile and less accepting of government line.
Businesses don’t differ much to US businesses, especiall ...[text shortened]... press when you’re gazing over the field of white crosses at Saint Quentin or standing in St. Peters.
@no1marauder saidA GREAT post, I see daylight.
A good article in the Atlantic that explains things you can't or won't understand:
"A Nordic person myself, I left my native Finland seven years ago and moved to the U.S. Although I’m now a U.S. citizen, I hear these kinds of comments from Americans all the time—at cocktail parties and at panel discussions, in town hall meetings and on the opinion pages. Nordic countri ...[text shortened]... ore at: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/bernie-sanders-nordic-countries/473385/
@averagejoe1 said1. Your lobby groups push the concept that it’s not possible, that you have to live the American dream, individualism is good.
A very nice post, i enjoyed reading it.Many of us have been to the places you mention, and more, .and yes, it all gives us pause. Standing in a Vnam rice field does indeed create un-experienced feelings.
But, still, I am simply asking (assuming our government has noticed how great and happy everything is about the Nordic plans) why our extremely smart economists and ...[text shortened]... hat is, why do you think that this is the case,,,,that, the USA plods along with our present system?
@shavixmir saidI agree, I think you are saying lobby groups encourage individualism,, which is good. I would think that that is a given anyway, as one is born an individual, and without rules to erode his individuality, he may be lucky enough to remain a free-thinking, free living individual.
1. Your lobby groups push the concept that it’s not possible, that you have to live the American dream, individualism is good.
2. That the general public, due to lack of comparison or constant historic context, have accepted the message from point 1; hook, line and sinker.
Tell me, how is it possible to discredit socialism as a concept, for example?
When you can’t di ...[text shortened]... y evil.
And when one does believe in such rigid doctrines, one should be aware of indoctrination.
@averagejoe1 saidYou are proving my point. Thanks.
I agree, I think you are saying lobby groups encourage individualism,, which is good. I would think that that is a given anyway, as one is born an individual, and without rules to erode his individuality, he may be lucky enough to remain a free-thinking, free living individual.
2. How could one not accept individualism? Dont get you there.
3. Why cant one disti ...[text shortened]... is a given that certain doctrines thrust upon the populace could make it easy to indoctrinate them.
@shavixmir saidI appreciate your giving me a bit of credence.....but..,just wait on the Biden Express. THAT is what will actually prove your point. Joe will prove it all.
You are proving my point. Thanks.
@sonhouse saidHere is vintage Sounhouse. I make a comment about Biden firing thousands of workers(yes, he is firing them). In the oil industry.
@AverageJoe1
Biden is ALREADY improving greatly on Trumpian policy,
getting us back in WHO, and the Paris accords for one, using emergency powers to increase and dole out evenly to states the vaccine instead of the Trump vision, States are on their own, 'we are not the sales clerks of the US' is what he said.
Throwing the states under the bus like that foments competition ...[text shortened]... hypnotized people think otherwise and need professional deprogramming to rejoin the American system.