Popular Delusions About Covid-19

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As I’ve stated multiple times.

However, the virus is more deadly than you and the tinfoil hat community seem to think it is. And it has longer lasting effects on survivors than many of you seem to register.

But the death rate is not interesting. And is in no way the driving force behind the measures being taken.

@metal-brain said
Duchess said 1.1 million. Now you say 48 million.
That is quite a difference. Are you sure?

In fact if you read the OP by Shaviximir you will realize that the 48 million are ALL people who have died (and that number is actually a projection, since those numbers are only available month after the occur), the 1.1 million are people who have died while being atively fighting Covid-19 (and maybe some other illnesses)

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No it is not.

I’ve told you umpteen times: the measures taken have nothing to do with the death toll.

The measures are to slow down the spread of the disease to keep the healthcare system functioning.

@ponderable said
In fact if you read the OP by Shaviximir you will realize that the 48 million are ALL people who have died (and that number is actually a projection, since those numbers are only available month after the occur), the 1.1 million are people who have died while being atively fighting Covid-19 (and maybe some other illnesses)

People who have died while being actively fighting Covid-19 are Covid19 deaths. How did the other people die in the other higher estimates?

@metal-brain said
Duchess said 1.1 million. Now you say 48 million.
That is quite a difference. Are you sure?

Maybe come back when you’ve learnt read! I understand it can’t be easy posting in your second language but jeez try to focus.

@shavixmir said
There have been 33 million confirmed cases which have closed world wide. And 3% have died.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Imagine that every 33rd car trip you drove ended up with you dying.
You’d probably start cycling to the shops.

How did you get that number? Your link says 1,164,784 total deaths. Cases are not deaths, but even that number is different than the 33 mil you claimed.

The world population estimate is 7.8 billion.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

1,164,784 is a very small percentage of the population. Why are people freaking out about it?

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“ The truth here is that everyone makes mistakes and we are reliant on the so called experts of a still largely unknown virus to tell us what’s what.”
That’s a good enough reason to err on the side of caution.
A report on the bbc webpage today claims that those infected but recovered from covid display a dramatic ongoing drop in the production of anti bodies.
Until we know a lot more about this virus’s endgame we need to contain it. Our ignorance alone means it’s not:- flu, tb, malaria or traffic accidents and should be treated according to its potential worst case scenario.
We should be focusing on how we are going to sustain our societies in long term lock down or at least how we can open up safely for longer than it takes the virus to spike again.
Making masks and social distancing mandatory everywhere would be a start.

@metal-brain said
How did you get that number? Your link says 1,164,784 total deaths. Cases are not deaths, but even that number is different than the 33 mil you claimed.

The world population estimate is 7.8 mil.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

1,164,784 is a very small percentage of the population. Why are people freaking out about it?

The link says:

33 million cases closed.
Of which 1,1 million resulted in death.
And it says that this is a 3% death rate.

Or, at least, that’s what I read.

@kevcvs57 said
“ The truth here is that everyone makes mistakes and we are reliant on the so called experts of a still largely unknown virus to tell us what’s what.”
That’s a good enough reason to err on the side of caution.
A report on the bbc webpage today claims that those infected but recovered from covid display a dramatic ongoing drop in the production of anti bodies.
Until we kno ...[text shortened]... the virus to spike again.
Making masks and social distancing mandatory everywhere would be a start.

Masks are not proven to be effective, especially cloth masks. The US Surgeon general explained why months ago.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus

https://www.globalresearch.ca/are-face-masks-effective-evidence/5720209

"A report on the bbc webpage today claims that those infected but recovered from covid display a dramatic ongoing drop in the production of anti bodies."

That is why we don't know how many people have had the SARS2 virus. This makes estimations of how close to herd immunity we are impossible to trust. When Fauci argued with Rand Paul about how close or far from herd immunity we are he was relying on a number that could very well be wrong. I'll bet that never comes up in the news though.

@shavixmir said
The link says:

33 million cases closed.
Of which 1,1 million resulted in death.
And it says that this is a 3% death rate.

Or, at least, that’s what I read.

That does not take into account those that got SARS2 and were asymptomatic. What is the estimated % of those that are asymptomatic? We all know SARS2 does not kill 3% of people that get the virus. Not even close.

@metal-brain said
Masks are not proven to be effective, especially cloth masks. The US Surgeon general explained why months ago.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus

https://www.globalresearch.ca/are-face-masks-effective-evidence/5720209

"A report on the bbc webpage today claims that those infected but recovered from covid display a drama ...[text shortened]... relying on a number that could very well be wrong. I'll bet that never comes up in the news though.

Oh for fs sake a cloth hanky is effective if you get it over your mouth and nose quickly enough when sneezing or coughing how much more effective is a hanky strapped in place going to be?
Stop repeating your silly infantile arguments and the Kremlin they must do better.

@kevcvs57 said
Oh for fs sake a cloth hanky is effective if you get it over your mouth and nose quickly enough when sneezing or coughing how much more effective is a hanky strapped in place going to be?
Stop repeating your silly infantile arguments and the Kremlin they must do better.

The Dutch Government disagrees with you. They studied the science and determined there was no convincing evidence.

I'll quote the SG from the article I posted you didn't read.

He then explained the reasons why.

“On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like coronavirus is by touching a surface and then touching your face so wearing a mask improperly can actually increase your risk of getting disease.”

Adams went on to say that wearing a face mask “can also give you a false sense of security." He added that "you see many of these pictures with people out and about closer than six feet to each other, but still wearing a mask.”

He noted that there are also consequences to wearing masks.

“We still have PPE [Personal protective equipment] shortages across the country,” Adams noted. “The WHO mentioned this in their statement so we want to make sure we are reserving PPE for the people who most need it. That's how you are going to get the largest effect because if healthcare workers get sick, they can't take care of you when you get sick.”