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@metal-brain saidI don't know. Do you? You wrote there's a well-established positive correlation between poverty and population and we still haven't seen it.
Is there more poverty in china than Japan? Yes or no?
@metal-brain saidI don't know. Do you? You wrote there's a well-established positive correlation between poverty and population and we still haven't seen it.
Is there more poverty in china than Japan? Yes or no?
@wildgrass saidLet's start with the USA. We have a relatively high standard of living and we have a relatively low birth rate. Mexico in contrast has a higher poverty rate and a higher birth rate on the other side of the border.
I don't know. Do you? You wrote there's a well-established positive correlation between poverty and population and we still haven't seen it.
@metal-brain saidYou could have just admitted on page 2 you were referring to birth rate and not population. We would have avoided a lot of typing. I asked the question and you never answered.
Let's start with the USA. We have a relatively high standard of living and we have a relatively low birth rate. Mexico in contrast has a higher poverty rate and a higher birth rate on the other side of the border.
@wildgrass saidSure, immigration is why our population is growing despite a low birth rate. I mentioned that earlier in this thread. Gates is talking about world population so immigration has no effect on that worldwide.
You could have just admitted on page 2 you were referring to birth rate and not population. We would have avoided a lot of typing. I asked the question and you never answered.
Now we can finally move forward. Yes, birth rate and poverty are correlated. But there's no correlation between poverty and population, given all the externalities. On what basis are you making the ...[text shortened]... the way back on page 2) in which reducing poverty would decrease the number of humans on the planet?
@metal-brain saidWhy are you asking a question I already answered? And what does any of this have to do with immigration?
Sure, immigration is why our population is growing despite a low birth rate. I mentioned that earlier in this thread. Gates is talking about world population so immigration has no effect on that worldwide.
Gates is trying to lower the birth rate in Africa. He could do that by lifting them out of poverty, but perhaps it is cheaper to do it the other way around. In any c ...[text shortened]... ive a better explanation for the correlation than I did. You do admit there is a correlation, right?
@mghrn55 saidbtw ....... I didn't bother to open the link provided. Won't get involved in conspiracy fantasies. Or your Bill Gates fantasies.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation about where humanity is going this century, you might want to factor in our current climate crisis.
At this point the crisis is being driven by 2 factors, imo...
1 - our pursuit of economic prosperity, which is a good thing. But we have to manage that intelligently and responsibly. Our notion that our resources are infinite (r ...[text shortened]... open the link provided. Won't get involved in conspiracy fantasies. Or your Bill Gates fantasies.
@wildgrass saidYou did not answer my question. Why does the USA have a lower birth rate than Mexico if it is not due to poverty in Mexico and lack of it in the USA? If I am wrong you must have an alternative explanation. Do you?
Why are you asking a question I already answered? And what does any of this have to do with immigration?
@metal-brain saidI agreed with you on the link between birth rate and poverty. What's missing is how you think decreasing poverty will decrease population.
You did not answer my question. Why does the USA have a lower birth rate than Mexico if it is not due to poverty in Mexico and lack of it in the USA? If I am wrong you must have an alternative explanation. Do you?
@wildgrass saidAre you claiming an increasing population increases poverty?
I agreed with you on the link between birth rate and poverty. What's missing is how you think decreasing poverty will decrease population.
@metal-brain saidLack of poverty in the USA? Lol I thought you said you lived in the US.
You did not answer my question. Why does the USA have a lower birth rate than Mexico if it is not due to poverty in Mexico and lack of it in the USA? If I am wrong you must have an alternative explanation. Do you?
@metal-brain saidI haven't claimed anything. You wrote on page 3 that reducing poverty will reduce population. Why?
Are you claiming an increasing population increases poverty?
Do you think reducing population is the best way to reduce poverty?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzbtptaajV8
@wildgrass saidYouTube
I haven't claimed anything. You wrote on page 3 that reducing poverty will reduce population. Why?
@wildgrass saidAs it turn out Bill Gates is well aware of this and has been for years because people wrote him and told him the truth, so just listen to Bill Gates explain it to you.
I haven't claimed anything. You wrote on page 3 that reducing poverty will reduce population. Why?