@no1marauder saidYaa... So?
Not the government:
"Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration, or military service laws."
https://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-LP-Platform-0720.pdf
Ha, ha they even use "gender identity".
Don't know what this has to do with this thread or me
@earl-of-trumps saidIt's a direct response to YOUR post.
Yaa... So?
Don't know what this has to do with this thread or me
- Joined
- 27 Sep 06
- Moves
- 251103
@vivify saidEARL, you sure do cite a lot of right
You're a "libertarian" who supports allowing civil liberties to be denied. Right.
wing sources for a LIBERTARIAN-----
Breitbart, FOX, WashingtonExaminer, et al.,
I've mentioned it before and Libeterians, certainly
are not TRUMP fans which you seem to be.
- Joined
- 27 Sep 06
- Moves
- 251103
@shallow-blue saidRand Paul calls himself a Libertarian too.
Pfft... sure, mate, sure. Unless a married gay couple moves in next to a libertarian. Then, it immediately changes into a screeching rage of "it's my fReAdUmB not to live to this pair of degenaraytes!!1Il!?!!"
@no1marauder saidSTILL don't know what it means to me. you quoted the Libertarians. So...?
It's a direct response to YOUR post.
3 edits
@jimm619 saidBelieve it or not, Jimm, there is such a thing as conservative Libertarians.
EARL, you sure do cite a lot of right
wing sources for a LIBERTARIAN-----
Breitbart, FOX, WashingtonExaminer, et al.,
I've mentioned it before and Libeterians, certainly
are not TRUMP fans which you seem to be.
You know for a fact that democrats and republicans elected to serve in the congress will have some members that do NOT go along
with the party on certain issues, right? OK, so I am entitled to disagree with the Libertarians occasionally and still be one.
NOTE: there is nothing that I espouse that veers from the Libertarian mantra of SMALLER GOVERNMENT.
Now, I know where I Stand, and I have no idea why all of you are so fascinated with my being a Libertarian, or NOT.
What the buck difference does it make, to any of you???
As far as Trump goes, I think that anyone ticking off dems can't be all bad. He sure tried to do right
by America on the southern border, now, didn't he? I'd take Trump over Biden in a New York City heart beat.
Have a nice day, Jimm
- Joined
- 27 Sep 06
- Moves
- 251103
@Earl-of-Trumps---There 'ya go again EARL, don't hear you decrying
the recent Roe decision, as ANY LIBERTARIAN would do and as only Democrats are doing now......Dems always the bad guy in your
comments, whereas a true LIBERTARIAN, would be vehement.
Just one instance of your pseudo LIBERTARIAN proclamations.
1 edit
@mott-the-hoople saidTyranny is when governments take away peoples autonomy and the right to choose their own path in life.
tyranny is when the govt forces things on people…exactly what you are wanting
conservatives want to let the people decide…you know, the democratic way
The right wing minority run SCOTUS is giving right wing governments the power to prevent people from taking fundamental decisions about themselves.
Are you pretending that states legislatures aren’t governments or stupid enough to not realise that.
YOU ARE THE TYRANNY.
@vivify saidIn other news,
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/18/ted-cruz-supreme-court-2015-same-sex-marriage/10084609002/Ted Cruz says Supreme Court was ‘clearly wrong’ with 2015 same-sex marriage ruling
Sen. Ted Cruz said the Supreme Court was off base in 2015 for its ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges that legalized same-sex marriage and believes it should be recon ...[text shortened]... enturies of our nation’s history. Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states.
https://www.governing.com/now/missouri-kansas-voter-registration-spikes-after-court-decision
According to Vote.org senior communications director LToya Knighten, Missouri saw a 627 percent increase in registrations between that day and June 17, one week before the ruling was released.
Kansas saw an even bigger jump: The site recorded a 1,038 percent increase in voter registrations on the 24. That means more than 10 times the number of people in Kansas registered to vote through the site than did a week earlier.
It would bring me great joy if it turns out republicans shot themselves in the foot
@earl-of-trumps saidCall it a clarification of your post where you said:
STILL don't know what it means to me. you quoted the Libertarians. So...?
Earl: Libertarians have no problem with gays getting married, and they do allow for anybody to deny that marriage.
That "anybody" does not include governments at any level.
@earl-of-trumps saidEarl: there is nothing that I espouse that veers from the Libertarian mantra of SMALLER GOVERNMENT.
Believe it or not, Jimm, there is such a thing as conservative Libertarians.
You know for a fact that democrats and republicans elected to serve in the congress will have some members that do NOT go along
with the party on certain issues, right? OK, so I am entitled to disagree with the Libertarians occasionally and still be one.
NOTE: there is nothing that I espou ...[text shortened]... r, now, didn't he? I'd take Trump over Biden in a New York City heart beat.
Have a nice day, Jimm
Praising a guy who wanted to build a thousands of mile wall on our Southern border with taxpayer funds sure does.
" Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."
https://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-LP-Platform-0720.pdf Section 3.4
@jimm619 saidtwo things, crazy Jimm, as you try to "debunk" EoT:
@Earl-of-Trumps---There 'ya go again EARL, don't hear you decrying
the recent Roe decision, as ANY LIBERTARIAN would do and as only Democrats are doing now......Dems always the bad guy in your
comments, whereas a true LIBERTARIAN, would be vehement.
Just one instance of your pseudo LIBERTARIAN proclamations.
1) I have firmly stated in here that I am for allowing for abortions. And Roe v Wade did not make abortion illegal.
2) I am sure there are individual libertarians that oppose abortion. It can never be a 100% plank.
Jimm, you know that there are democrats and women that are AGAINST abortion, right?
Yet here you sit picking on me because I am not opposed to the supreme court ruling enough.
how fukked up are you?
@no1marauder saidLMFAO
Earl: there is nothing that I espouse that veers from the Libertarian mantra of SMALLER GOVERNMENT.
Praising a guy who wanted to build a thousands of mile wall on our Southern border with taxpayer funds sure does.
" Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."
https://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-LP-Platform-0720.pdf Section 3.4
2 edits
@kevcvs57 saida little primer here, the scotus decision did not take away anyones rights.
Tyranny is when governments take away peoples autonomy and the right to choose their own path in life.
The right wing minority run SCOTUS is giving right wing governments the power to prevent people from taking fundamental decisions about themselves.
Are you pretending that states legislatures aren’t governments or stupid enough to not realise that.
YOU ARE THE TYRANNY.
state govts represent the peoples will.
@mott-the-hoople saidIt doesn’t matter how that government is formed tyranny is tyranny.
a little primer here, the scotus decision did not take away anyones rights.
state govts represent the peoples will.
So why did SCOTUS take away the state of New York’s right to ban conceal and carry permits.
The people of New York do not have the same democratically arrived at autonomy to invest their state legislature with the power to make laws? Is that your claim?
Before you start chundering on about the constitutional right to bear arms even I know it doesn’t give the right to conceal those arms about your person.
The SCOTUS is clearly part of the right wing tyranny project currently being carried out by the far right Republican Party.