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You would have had to sign an ICD (informed consent document) stating that you understood that you were participating in a clinical trial and might possibly receive placebo.

Despite what you see on TV, docs don't just hand out placebos because they get sued and disbarred for malpractice.


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Young fellow down east (Trump country) had a huge bait and tackle shop. Used to follow him on FB. He loved to post pictures of people with big red drum they caught on his lures.

One day, his wife started posting, said he had the COVID. Each day, a little more severe. Heartbreaking to see how hopeful she was.

He died of respiratory failure. His shop closed.

About a million Americans died before their time.


I'm about 50 years old and I've never seen young athletes drop dead playing sports or training. It happens regularly now and they all got the shot.

It seems extreme cardio/endurance and the shot don't mix well together.
Hopefully one day they will explain why this happens.


@spruce112358 said
If you take that same cold virus, kill it, and put it in your bloodstream,
You are describing a traditional vaccine. Surely you know that is not how mRNA COVID vaccines work.

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@Sleepyguy said
You are describing a traditional vaccine. Surely you know that is not how mRNA COVID vaccines work.
Yes. And some vaccines feature live but attenuated virus.

We may eventually get to that part of the course.

EDIT: Polio before 2000 (OPV) was a live but much weakened virus. If you ate the sugar cube, that was live polio virus. There have been a tiny number of cases of very immunocompromised people contracting polio from the vaccine itself. Docs don't always read labels and understand them, either.

But you can't catch COVID from the mRNA vaccine - the vaccine is not the whole virus and doesn't contain the instructions to make the whole virus.

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@Sleepyguy said
You are describing a traditional vaccine. Surely you know that is not how mRNA COVID vaccines work.
mRNA vaccines work by taking a small piece of a dead virus, and putting it in the body such that cells innocently begin synthesizing viral proteins.

The body then detects these viral proteins, reacts in horror, assumes there is an invasion, and starts ringing the alarm bells - synthesizing antibodies to fight back.

The COVID vaccine doesn't introduce whole viruses - just parts of them.


@spruce112358 said
mRNA vaccines work by taking a small piece of a dead virus, and putting it in the body such that cells innocently begin synthesizing viral proteins.

The body then detects these viral proteins, reacts in horror, assumes there is an invasion, and starts ringing the alarm bells - synthesizing antibodies to fight back.

The COVID vaccine doesn't introduce whole viruses - just parts of them.
OMG I'm not even going to bother.


I am very sorry for the turbo cancer, myocarditis, and muscle atrophy some in this thread will get. Who in their right mind trust the government and Big Pharma?

Ivermectin here. 1 day of symptoms. Then all over. However, I battled curfews, lockdowns, threat of termination, legal battles, ban from supermarkets and restaurants, forced nozzle, and beating and water cannon at the hands of riot police stomping on peaceful protesters.

We are not the same.

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@DJJ said
Then why do the vaccinated still get covid and are still able to transmit it? Some vaccine.
The vaccine does not prevent you from contracting the disease. The manufacturers never said it would either. What the vaccine does, what the manufacturers said it would do, is statistically significantly reduce the likelihood that you would die of it, if you caught it. Stop getting your 'news' from twitter; read the leaflet that comes with the drug.

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@moonbus
In my day, a vaccine prevented you getting it in the first place.

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@DJJ said
@moonbus
In my day, a vaccine prevented you getting it in the first place.
The times they are a changin'.

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