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@no1marauder saidAs I have already pointed out, it broadens the scope for which abortions can be performed. All a woman now need to do is say, "If you don't give me an abortion, I'll kill myself!"
Already explained. It codifies the law regarding third trimester abortion while making some fairly minor changes like allowing medical professionals who aren't physicians to perform some abortions.
None of that is worth the ridiculous, misleading rant you cut and pasted.
@whodey saidYour point is a falsehood and your example BS.
As I have already pointed out, it broadens the scope for which abortions can be performed. All a woman now need to do is say, "If you don't give me an abortion, I'll kill myself!"
@no1marauder saidSo under the current law a woman could not obtain an abortion by saying that she is of such a mental state that if she does not have an abortion she will kill herself?
Your point is a falsehood and your example BS.
@whodey saidIn case you missed it, which you apparently did, "Your point is a falsehood and your example BS."
So under the current law a woman could not obtain an abortion by saying that she is of such a mental state that if she does not have an abortion she will kill herself?
I'm not even sure why it matters what the laws say after the example of how Dr. Gosnell was treated by the state. Here was a man who violated law after law after law after law, but instead of forcing him to ...[text shortened]... convicting an abortion doctor.
Progressives either change laws or ignore them. They are lawless.
@whodey saidYour premise is that after carrying a ZEF for more than six months, some proportion of pregnant women would come up with a contrived reason just to get an abortion. I challenge you to present one example where this occurred. An actual, well-founded probability of suicide might well be a sufficient threat to a woman's mental health as to justify a third trimester abortion (after all a successful or even unsuccessful attempt at suicide would almost certainly terminate the pregnancy anyway) but I have no statistics to indicate that this occurs at all.
So under the current law a woman could not obtain an abortion by saying that she is of such a mental state that if she does not have an abortion she will kill herself?
I'm not even sure why it matters what the laws say after the example of how Dr. Gosnell was treated by the state. Here was a man who violated law after law after law after law, but instead of forcing him to ...[text shortened]... convicting an abortion doctor.
Progressives either change laws or ignore them. They are lawless.
@no1marauder saidSo you're saying that women are not sociopaths and would not want an abortion third trimester because of that? Also, the article I provided had a doctor that said he knew of virtually no cases where a woman's like would be in danger third trimester to kill the infant.
Your premise is that after carrying a ZEF for more than six months, some proportion of pregnant women would come up with a contrived reason just to get an abortion. I challenge you to present one example where this occurred. An actual, well-founded probability of suicide might well be a sufficient threat to a woman's mental health as to justify a third trimester abortion ...[text shortened]...
Gosnell was convicted in Philly and got life without parole. That sounds like the law was enforced.
@whodey saidAs I assumed, you can't point to any actual examples and simply rely on a vague claim that X percentage of women are "sociopaths". That's hardly the basis for reasoned public policy. Of course, this is all pretend anyway; according to your extremist views a 1 minute after fertilization zygote is just as much a human being as a third trimester fetus and you want to call the termination of a pregnancy concerning either as "murder". In that view, I suppose any and all pregnant women who decide to have an abortion are evil "sociopaths".
So you're saying that women are not sociopaths and would not want an abortion third trimester because of that? Also, the article I provided had a doctor that said he knew of virtually no cases where a woman's like would be in danger third trimester to kill the infant.
Funny, sounds like passing this New York law was completely meaningless. Almost makes you wonder why they ...[text shortened]... never have happened. All I know is that it continues to happen, on what level, we will never know.
@no1marauder saidI have no idea what you are babbling about here. The movie went out of its way to be factual and was not even preachy against abortion.
As I assumed, you can't point to any actual examples and simply rely on a vague claim that X percentage of women are "sociopaths". That's hardly the basis for reasoned public policy. Of course, this is all pretend anyway; according to your extremist views a 1 minute after fertilization zygote is just as much a human being as a third trimester fetus and you want to call th ...[text shortened]... f driving a car. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2017_Champs-%C3%89lys%C3%A9es_car_ramming_attack
@whodey saidNo, they don't:
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So as we see from the article, about 73% of women felt pressured by the Progressive culture of death to have an abortion, even though over 60% felt that abortion was wrong, they did it anyway.
@no1marauder saidFrom one cherry picker to another, eh?
No, they don't:
surveys from 987 women seeking post-abortion counseling services at crisis pregnancy centers nationwide. While the findings are not representative of all women in the U.S. who have had an abortion,
This is a cherry picked sample; of course those seeking counselling at such facilities are going to have opinions at wide variance with wh ...[text shortened]... pregnant"
https://theconversation.com/who-chooses-abortion-more-women-than-you-might-think-99982
@whodey saidYour petty attempts at insults will be ignored as will your repeated lies about my positions.
From one cherry picker to another, eh?
Of course, only you should be believed.
You know, people who sold us Obamacare as not being a lie and then turning round and declaring Hillary told the truth.
Thanks for that.
@no1marauder saidI tried to warn you about being an apologist for someone as blatantly dishonest and corrupt as Hillary.
Your petty attempts at insults will be ignored as will your repeated lies about my positions.
Your article concedes it is an unrepresentative sample; why did you claim it was not?
Article: While the findings are not representative of all women in the U.S. who have had an abortion,
whodey: So as we see from the article, about 73% of women
Did you deliberately lie in the hope no one would notice?