Put Dr Verma on the Forum! 'Can men get pregnant'. 'Oh, we need to have a discussion'

@no1marauder said
One in 15,000 approximately or about 20,000 in the US and half a million worldwide.https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/news/more-women-than-expected-are-born-with-a-hidden-variation-in-sex-development/#:~:text=One%20in%20about%2015%2C000%20people,nor%20their%20parents%20know%20it.

Not exactly a "one off".

And how about Khelif, who Trump and other right wingers made a cause celebre?

1/2 million freaks shouldn’t be considered normal out of over 8 BILLION people.

@no1marauder said
No, not for legal purposes anyway IMO.

I'd determine it the old fashioned way; by external genitalia.

Why not just a no?
I’ll work with you. Takes time, I guess.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
1/2 million freaks shouldn’t be considered normal out of over 8 BILLION people.

The question wasn't "can people internet posters don't consider normal get pregnant" but can men.

And the answer hinges on how you define "men" which seems to be a point of contention even among physicians and scientists.

I brought up Swyer syndrome originally because one poster, Earl of Trumps I believe, insisted that the chromosome test was definitive.

And while SG might claim sex is "immutable" (though he mistakenly used the word "gender"😉, that's just an opinion, not fact. Almost every State disagrees and allows persons to change their sex on driver's licenses for example though many require proof of gender transition medical treatment.

@no1marauder said
The question wasn't "can people internet posters don't consider normal get pregnant" but can men.

And the answer hinges on how you define "men" which seems to be a point of contention even among physicians and scientists.

I brought up Swyer syndrome originally because one poster, Earl of Trumps I believe, insisted that the chromosome test was definitive.

...[text shortened]... x on driver's licenses for example though many require proof of gender transition medical treatment.

“ And the answer hinges on how you define "men" which seems to be a point of contention even among physicians and scientists.”

Provide your evidence.

You have a habit of making claims to support your argument…let’s see the proof.

Personally I think people know what a man is, what a woman is and what something in between is.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
“ And the answer hinges on how you define "men" which seems to be a point of contention even among physicians and scientists.”

Provide your evidence.

You have a habit of making claims to support your argument…let’s see the proof.

Personally I think people know what a man is, what a woman is and what something in between is.

There's "something in between"?

Here learn something:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/#:~:text=When%20genetics%20is%20taken%20into,certificate%20says%20male%20or%20female.

@no1marauder said
There's "something in between"?

Here learn something:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/#:~:text=When%20genetics%20is%20taken%20into,certificate%20says%20male%20or%20female.

No…I want to see proof of this statement…

““ And the answer hinges on how you define "men" which seems to be a point of contention even among physicians and scientists.”

@Mott-The-Hoople said
No…I want to see proof of this statement…

““ And the answer hinges on how you define "men" which seems to be a point of contention even among physicians and scientists.”

Then read the Scientific American article though I could cite numerous other sources.

@no1marauder said
Then read the Scientific American article though I could cite numerous other sources.

So all you have is ONE writer?
Do you really think a left biased site proves anything?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/scientific-american/


On 9/15/2020, Scientific American endorsed Democratic Presidential Candidate Joe Biden for President. This is the first time in their 175 year history that they have ever endorsed a candidate.

@no1marauder said
Inane Khelif, the Algerian boxer who Trump constantly claims is a "man" and seeks to bar from competing in 2028 Olympics, supposedly "failed" a test given by the IBC in 2023 because it indicated she had XY chromosomes.https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/articles/cq54ylnz8eyo#:~:text=Background%20%2D%20Khelif's%20controversial%20gold,that%20are%20false%20and%20offensive%22.

Yeah just look at her.

https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/timeline/content/2024/08/03/1722702550608.jpg

I've lost track of the point you're trying to make. Please plainly state it. Something like:

Because 0.00125% of humans defy the standard male/female categorization, then...

What?

@Sleepyguy said
Yeah just look at her.

https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/timeline/content/2024/08/03/1722702550608.jpg

I've lost track of the point you're trying to make. Please plainly state it. Something like:

Because 0.00125% of humans defy the standard male/female categorization, then...

What?

"Look at her"? What is that supposed to mean? Is there some standard of physical attractiveness that women athletes must meet to be allowed to compete?

The OP ridiculed a person for not being able to give a definitive answer to a question who's answer depends on disputed definitions. I find that almost amusingly ignorant.

@no1marauder said
"Look at her"? What is that supposed to mean? Is there some standard of physical attractiveness that women athletes must meet to be allowed to compete?

The OP ridiculed a person for not being able to give a definitive answer to a question who's answer depends on disputed definitions. I find that almost amusingly ignorant.

“who's answer depends on disputed definitions.”

Who is disputing? People with the same defects?

If you cant look at that person and tell something isn’t right you are delusional

@Mott-The-Hoople said
“who's answer depends on disputed definitions.”

Who is disputing? People with the same defects?

If you cant look at that person and tell something isn’t right you are delusional

I read your posts and know "something isn't right" with you.

You're all dodging, so let's make it clear; IF Inane Khelif has XY chromosomes but external female genitalia (she was raised a girl in a conservative Muslim country) what sex is she/him?

Who's disputing such simplistic ideas that you and other barely educated right wingers hold dear are biologists and other scientists though it is a point of dispute has you'd know if you actually bothered to read anything but Breitbart.

@no1marauder said
"Look at her"? What is that supposed to mean? Is there some standard of physical attractiveness that women athletes must meet to be allowed to compete?

The OP ridiculed a person for not being able to give a definitive answer to a question who's answer depends on disputed definitions. I find that almost amusingly ignorant.

Standard of physical attractiveness? No, fool. Puzzle it out.

@no1marauder said
I read your posts and know "something isn't right" with you.

You're all dodging, so let's make it clear; IF Inane Khelif has XY chromosomes but external female genitalia (she was raised a girl in a conservative Muslim country) what sex is she/him?

Who's disputing such simplistic ideas that you and other barely educated right wingers hold dear are biologists and othe ...[text shortened]... ugh it is a point of dispute has you'd know if you actually bothered to read anything but Breitbart.

You describe a persons with …https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/swyer-syndrome

Are you stupid or can’t comprehend what is written?

@Sleepyguy said
Standard of physical attractiveness? No, fool. Puzzle it out.

I have no idea what you mean then. She's a bit tall for a woman - 5'10" - but not freakishly so. She has a good amateur record at 48-9 but she lost in the Olympic quarterfinals in 2020.https://boxrec.com/en/box-am/899786