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    21 Nov '16 17:22
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Surprised to see Romney named as a possible SoS. Trump's advisers must have convinced him to put his petty man-child attitude aside and have someone sort of competent represent the country abroad - because Lord knows Trump can't do that.
    I agree, though I'll believe that he'll appoint Romney when he does it. My cynical side says that he's just showboating by meeting Romney.
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    21 Nov '16 17:24
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Surprised to see Romney named as a possible SoS. Trump's advisers must have convinced him to put his petty man-child attitude aside and have someone sort of competent represent the country abroad - because Lord knows Trump can't do that.
    Competent?

    Romney lost to Obama when he opposed him and then lost to Trump after opposing him.

    Loser is the word that comes to mind when discussing Romney. It matters little which party he chooses, he always seems to choose poorly.
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    21 Nov '16 17:28
    Originally posted by whodey
    Competent?

    Romney lost to Obama when he opposed him and then lost to Trump after opposing him.

    Loser is the word that comes to mind when discussing Romney. It matters little which party he chooses, he always seems to choose poorly.
    In all fairness, there's probably no Republican that could've beaten Obama (except Ron Paul, but Reps won't vote for him) or Trump. Trump killed his Rep opponents.
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    21 Nov '16 17:31
    Originally posted by vivify
    In all fairness, there's probably no Republican that could've beaten Obama (except Ron Paul, but Reps won't vote for him) or Trump. Trump killed his Rep opponents.
    Trump is a fighter, Romney is not.

    Trump has shown the GOP that they need to actually fight back against the radical left, or lose.

    Trump got up to talk to a group of evangelicals during the primary and he looked at them and said, "You people need to learn to fight back".
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    21 Nov '16 17:331 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump is a fighter, Romney is not.

    Trump has shown the GOP that they need to actually fight back against the radical left, or lose.

    Trump got up to talk to a group of evangelicals during the primary and he looked at them and said, "You people need to learn to fight back".
    Evangelicals won't vote for a Mormon.

    Lesson learned from Romney, find someone who can lie about being a two Corinthians Christian and lie to the masses about what he is going to do to change the country the way they want it changed.

    You've got to admit, Trump is a good liar.
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    21 Nov '16 17:35
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Romney makes a big anti-Trump speech last spring and Trump says that Romney would give him a blow job if it would improve his political standing. Months later they meet and Romney may become Secretary of State. Trump attacks Cruz's wife and accuses Cruz's father of killing JFK and Cruz says he'll never be a subservient puppy dog and support Trump. He takes a ...[text shortened]... nsidering Cruz for the Supreme Court. It's like a horror movie. Am I going to lose my soul next?
    It looks as though Trump is just a puppet doing as he is told. Romney is an establishment pick if he makes it, but it should come as no surprise since Trump picked Pence as his running mate. He is pure establishment. Trump knows he has to do as he is told just to prevent being assassinated and Pence the war hawk being in control.

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pence-anthrax-20160717-20160715-snap-story.html

    This seems to come down to Trumps taxes. I suspect he committed fraud and he is being controlled with his tax blunder with the longest audit in American history. It looks very fishy because a presidential candidate should have had his taxes fast tracked and completed before the election. The fact that never happened is beyond logic!

    Trump will do as he is told or he will be impeached and sent to jail. That is how you make the president of the USA an obedient puppet. Those that ignore this are morons incapable of decent critical thinking.
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    21 Nov '16 17:38
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    It looks as though Trump is just a puppet doing as he is told. Romney is an establishment pick if he makes it, but it should come as no surprise since Trump picked Pence as his running mate. He is pure establishment. Trump knows he has to do as he is told just to prevent being assassinated and Pence the war hawk being in control.

    http://www.latimes.co ...[text shortened]... USA an obedient puppet. Those that ignore this are morons incapable of decent critical thinking.
    Trump picking Pence is like Obama picking ol' Joe Bite Me
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    21 Nov '16 17:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump is a fighter, Romney is not.

    Trump has shown the GOP that they need to actually fight back against the radical left, or lose.

    Trump got up to talk to a group of evangelicals during the primary and he looked at them and said, "You people need to learn to fight back".
    You do realize that Reps filibustered more times than in any previous presidency, shut down the government, and spent 7 million and multiple court hearings to bring down, Hillary, right? So what "more fighting" does the right need to do?
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    21 Nov '16 18:01
    Originally posted by vivify
    You do realize that Reps filibustered more times than in any previous presidency, shut down the government, and spent 7 million and multiple court hearings to bring down, Hillary, right? So what "more fighting" does the right need to do?
    It takes two to shut down a government. Obama shut down the government by veto.

    They did waste big bucks by simply passing spending bills that just continued spending at present levels.
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    21 Nov '16 21:40
    Originally posted by sh76
    Do you see some sort of problem with getting over personal disputes and doing what's best for the country? Now, I get that getting over stuff is not exactly a liberal forté, but surely you can at least understand the concept.
    These weren't just "personal disputes," and I just see opportunism not any sense of public benevolence. Clinton and Obama had gotten very personal. It's not about personal. It's about a basic sense of decency.
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    21 Nov '16 21:41
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump is a fighter, Romney is not.

    Trump has shown the GOP that they need to actually fight back against the radical left, or lose.

    Trump got up to talk to a group of evangelicals during the primary and he looked at them and said, "You people need to learn to fight back".
    He sure ran a nasty campaign against Obama!
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    21 Nov '16 21:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump is a fighter, Romney is not.

    Trump has shown the GOP that they need to actually fight back against the radical left, or lose.

    Trump got up to talk to a group of evangelicals during the primary and he looked at them and said, "You people need to learn to fight back".
    Up to November 8th, you were insisting that Trump was a faux sacrificial lamb run by the Clintons to insure Hillary's ascension.

    Now you're convinced he's a "fighter" against the "radical left"!

    The mind reels.
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    21 Nov '16 21:591 edit
    Originally posted by vivify
    In all fairness, there's probably no Republican that could've beaten Obama (except Ron Paul, but Reps won't vote for him) or Trump. Trump killed his Rep opponents.
    The press destroyed Ron Paul. They simply pretended he did not exist and talked all around him.

    Conversely, all the press did was talk about Trump and he was front and center at every GOP debate.

    YouTube

    Methinks the press secretly favored Trump.
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    21 Nov '16 23:221 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    The press destroyed Ron Paul. They simply pretended he did not exist and talked all around him.

    Conversely, all the press did was talk about Trump and he was front and center at every GOP debate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jArBBx2zINA

    Methinks the press secretly favored Trump.
    The person ahead in a pre-selected aggregate of polls got the center position at the debates and that was always Trump:

    His rapid rise to the top of the Republican pack in polls has earned him center-stage status in the debate.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-center-stage-republicans-square-off-first-debate-050931229.html?ref=gs

    Sorry, no conspiracy needed to explain this simple fact.
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    21 Nov '16 23:47
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    These weren't just "personal disputes," and I just see opportunism not any sense of public benevolence. Clinton and Obama had gotten very personal. It's not about personal. It's about a basic sense of decency.
    If Romney thinks he can contribute to the security of the US and the world by becoming SoS rather than having the important position fall to a hothead like Giuliani, you're saying he shouldn't do it out of principled stand against Trump?
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