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@quackquack saidIsrael has been declared to be in violation of international law for its illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, its inhumane treatment and oppression of the People there and its settlement policy in those areas for decades. Your bloodthirsty desire for it to murder as many Arabs as possible in pursuit of such Crimes Against Humanity is morally shocking to those of us not afflicted with your personality disorder.
Israel has been literally attacked by its neighbors since its inception. Like any country it has an absolute right and obligation to protect the safety of its people Your desire to blame the victim can only be explained by your hatred toward Israel ad your ignorance of reality.
Thankfully the United States understands the situation a lot better than you do and defends Israel from the hateful ignorant attacks you support.
I support the 2 State solution; it is you who support the continued violence especially since the vast majority of victims from it are from an ethnic group you have declared could be justifiably exterminated.
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@beowulf saidGaza is a prison for the "crime" of being a Palestinian. It is not surprising the People there resent their guards.
Gaza fired 4 rockets into Israel after Biden left 🤣
@no1marauder saidWhat is the point of making such a statement if it's not true? SA and Iran have been mortal enemies for decades, what does he gain by making such a statement, especially when both Israel and the U.S. have animosity toward Iran? It's not like feigned interest in Iran will get him anything.
Has it ever occurred to you that despots' statements meant as press releases might not be entirely truthful?
Gullibility is usually more of a right wing thing.
If MBS' sentiment was some required part of a deal he was securing, I'd agree there's no reason to trust those words. But as far as I'm aware, there was no reason for him to utter such words.
@no1marauder saidWould there be a blockade if there were no history of attacks from Palestinians?
Gaza is a prison for the "crime" of being a Palestinian. It is not surprising the People there resent their guards.
To be clear: the blockade is cruel and I'm not defending it.
@vivify saidWould there have been a Lidice if Heydrich hadn't been assassinated?
Would there be a blockade if there were no history of attacks from Palestinians?
To be clear: the blockade is cruel and I'm not defending it.
If there's one thing that history has taught us it is that, sooner or later, oppressed People will eventually strike back at their oppressors. That the latter will use this as an excuse to visit collective punishment on the former is an all too familiar scenario.
@no1marauder saidLand was unfairly ripped from Palestinians by the UN and given to Israel, and Palestinians have (understandably) been on the offensive ever since. The blockade comes after decades of such offensives; this isn't some mere racial issue.
Would there have been a Lidice if Heydrich hadn't been assassinated?
If there's one thing that history has taught us it is that, sooner or later, oppressed People will eventually strike back at their oppressors. That the latter will use this as an excuse to visit collective punishment on the former is an all too familiar scenario.
You're able to dissect all the nuance involved in Russia's invasion but paint a one-sided picture when it comes to Israel.
@vivify saidIsrael has killed about 25 Palestinians for every Israeli killed since the UN started keeping score in 2008.
Land was unfairly ripped from Palestinians by the UN and given to Israel, and Palestinians have (understandably) been on the offensive ever since. The blockade comes after decades of such offensives; this isn't some mere racial issue.
You're able to dissect all the nuance involved in Russia's invasion but paint a one-sided picture when it comes to Israel.
Who's on the "offensive"?
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@vivify saidYes.
Would there be a blockade if there were no history of attacks from Palestinians?
Proto-Israel was murdering Palestinian civilians before Israel was a country.
@no1marauder saidIf I attack Mike Tyson and end up with more injuries than he does, I guess it wasn't an offensive in your view.
Israel has killed about 25 Palestinians for every Israeli killed since the UN started keeping score in 2008.
Who's on the "offensive"?
@shallow-blue saidLink? I don't doubt you I'd just like more info on what you're referring to.
Yes.
Proto-Israel was murdering Palestinian civilians before Israel was a country.
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@vivify saidA tiresome, simple minded analogy. IF Mike Tyson pushes you out of your seat and says he will kill you if you dare do anything about it, is he blameless if you act in your own self-defense? Is he justified to beat you to death and any of your ethnic group who happen to be close by (just in case they are tempted to perform "terrorist" acts as well)?
If I attack Mike Tyson and end up with more injuries than he does, I guess it wasn't an offensive in your view.
Coupled with the stunning ignorance of Middle eastern history your next post shows, it's reasonably obvious that further discussion with you on this matter is a waste of time.
@no1marauder saidYawn.
A tiresome, simple minded analogy. IF Mike Tyson pushes you out of your seat and says he will kill you if you dare do anything about it, is he blameless if you act in your own self-defense?
Coupled with the stunning ignorance of Middle eastern history your next post shows, it's reasonably obvious that further discussion with you on this matter is a waste of time.
I already acknowledged that Palestinians were unfairly robbed of their land after WWII; but that wasn't Israel's doing, was it?
Palestinian attacks against Israel were understandable but that doesn't change the fact that Palestinians launched sustained unsuccessful offensives against Israel. Your worthless point that Palestinians suffered more damage as a result of their offensives is irrelevant.