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SCOTUS hears Birthright case on April 1, televised

SCOTUS hears Birthright case on April 1, televised

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@AverageJoe1 said
Well, the problem needs to be fixed. Getting rid of illegals in this country needs to be fixed. Things have got to be fixed.
You better hope it stops, or your benefits might get diluted and reduced!!!
Write up a proposed constitutional amendment and get it ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures and 2/3 of Congress.

It's not illegal immigrants or "anchor babies" that "dilute" or "reduce" the benefits of the average US citizen. Illegal immigrants give more than they get through the work they do in the US that no one else will—working for peanuts, I might add, and paying taxes to boot.

You know what screws people out of benefits? Senseless wars. Take a look at this:
https://newrepublic.com/post/208342/republicans-health-care-cuts-donald-trump-iran-war
Republicans Want to Gut Health Care to Pay for Trump’s Iran War

Republicans are eyeing massive cuts to health care spending in order to scrounge up $200 billion for Donald Trump’s reckless war in Iran.

Top Republicans are looking for ways to offset the massive price tag the Pentagon has requested in order to pass the additional funding for U.S. military operations in Iran through a budget reconciliation bill, Axios reported Monday.

Proposing to kick an estimated 300,000 more people off healthcare to pay for Trump's failed attempt to overthrow Iran's hard-line theocracy is breathtakingly on-the-nose, but such brazen callousness is now par for the course with the GOP.

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@Soothfast said
Write up a proposed constitutional amendment and get it ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures and 2/3 of Congress.

It's not illegal immigrants or "anchor babies" that "dilute" or "reduce" the benefits of the average US citizen. Illegal immigrants give more than they get through the work they do in the US that no one else will—working for peanuts, I might add, and paying ...[text shortened]... y is breathtakingly on-the-nose, but such brazen callousness is now par for the course with the GOP.
Good God.

This man needs to be stopped.

If not, there's no telling how long it will be before the Constitution is in tatters.


@sonhouse said
Are you SO FKING DENSE you really think you can prove Trump right? YES the baby is an AMERICAN FKING CITIZEN FULL STOP.
Tourist babies happen, it is not a huge drain on our country.
Trump makes up crap on a whim and he has had a hard on against BC for DECADES.
EVEN THOUGH HE COULD LOSE HIS OWN CITIZENSHIP BECAUSE HIS MOM IS FROM SCOTLAND.
And the same with Barron, tell ...[text shortened]... POS LOW LIFE, and you didn't even vote republican, if you had you would not even be in this trouble.
You don’t answer the question. Does it make sense that a woman who is here on vacation at the Grand Canyon has a baby and the baby is immediately a citizen of the United States. Please explain why you think that is logical or if it makes any sense.. don’t mention Trump.


@Soothfast said
Write up a proposed constitutional amendment and get it ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures and 2/3 of Congress.

It's not illegal immigrants or "anchor babies" that "dilute" or "reduce" the benefits of the average US citizen. Illegal immigrants give more than they get through the work they do in the US that no one else will—working for peanuts, I might add, and paying ...[text shortened]... y is breathtakingly on-the-nose, but such brazen callousness is now par for the course with the GOP.
All I get from this post is that soothfast is against putting Iran down.


@AverageJoe1 said
You don’t answer the question. Does it make sense that a woman who is here on vacation at the Grand Canyon has a baby and the baby is immediately a citizen of the United States. Please explain why you think that is logical or if it makes any sense.. don’t mention Trump.
You can bitch all you want about individual cases but that doesn't change the FACT JACK that Trump ONLY wants more power, NOTHING to do personally at least I think so, because he has ONE agenda, HOW MUCH MONEY CAN I STEAL FROM THE USA TREASURY?


@sonhouse said
You can bitch all you want about individual cases but that doesn't change the FACT JACK that Trump ONLY wants more power, NOTHING to do personally at least I think so, because he has ONE agenda, HOW MUCH MONEY CAN I STEAL FROM THE USA TREASURY?
Is it bitching for me to simply ask you a question, a person comes to this country on vacation and has a child and the child becomes an immediate citizen of the United States. Are you so bereft of common sense that you cannot answer such a simple question?
Pretend you are a normal person, being asked this question. Maybe sitting on a park bench feeding the pigeons with a nice fellow who walks up and sits down, and ask you that question.
You might begin your answer with well I am glad you asked me that question…

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@AverageJoe1 said
Is it bitching for me to simply ask you a question, a person comes to this country on vacation and has a child and the child becomes an immediate citizen of the United States. Are you so bereft of common sense that you cannot answer such a simple question?
Pretend you are a normal person, being asked this question. Maybe sitting on a park bench feeding the pigeons wi ...[text shortened]... k you that question.
You might begin your answer with well I am glad you asked me that question…
OF COURSE you are OBSESSED, but the actual number of people like that is miniscule compared to our 1/3 of a BILLION population.
We can take a hundred million more and will STILL be less than HALF of India or China.
FKING STOP OBSESSING, You are just re PUKING the PUKE of Trump.
It is NOT healthy for your mind or spirit. If you have either one that is.
Trump has worked you and your ultrarightwingnut budiies into an artificial frenzy based on just the WORDS of Trump, Trump tells you to rape this girl, you go Only the one my Lord?

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@AverageJoe1 said
I think that the present process of becoming a citizen should be revised.
But , I PREDICT that they will bail, it will be too much for the judges, though they know it is too liberal.
Everybody vote, and enjoy watching the arguments on each side, I am not sure of the time.
A great point that I don't think was brought up at oral argument:

"History makes something else clear. When the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, the U.S. had not yet created the elaborate immigration categories debated today. There was no modern distinction between “lawful” and “unlawful” presence. But Congress had already outlawed the international slave trade. Africans smuggled into the country after that ban were brought here in violation of federal law. Yet their American-born children were citizens, instantly and without controversy, under the 14th Amendment.

That fact undermines modern claims that undocumented presence disqualifies a child from citizenship. Reconstruction lawmakers understood that individuals could reside in the United States in ways the law did not authorize or approve. They did not condition their children’s citizenship on paperwork.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-birthright-citizenship-is-meant-to-be-universal/ar-AA1ZUA5l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=69ce4d8525ea44989139f21fd4e5924b&ei=29

EDIT: Actually it appears Justice Barrett did bring up the cases of slaves illegally brought here and their children.https://reason.com/volokh/2026/04/01/justice-barrett-slavery-and-birthright-citizenship/


@sonhouse said
OF COURSE you are OBSESSED, but the actual number of people like that is miniscule compared to our 1/3 of a BILLION population.
We can take a hundred million more and will STILL be less than HALF of India or China.
FKING STOP OBSESSING, You are just re PUKING the PUKE of Trump.
It is NOT healthy for your mind or spirit. If you have either one that is.
Trump has worked yo ...[text shortened]... zy based on just the WORDS of Trump, Trump tells you to rape this girl, you go Only the one my Lord?
But…….the question…..


@AverageJoe1
Trump?!?


@no1marauder said
A great point that I don't think was brought up at oral argument:

"History makes something else clear. When the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, the U.S. had not yet created the elaborate immigration categories debated today. There was no modern distinction between “lawful” and “unlawful” presence. But Congress had already outlawed the international slave trade. [b ...[text shortened]... ir children.https://reason.com/volokh/2026/04/01/justice-barrett-slavery-and-birthright-citizenship/
A good post, but it still begs the question what is your endgame period you have never answered my question, a woman from Romania comes here to see the sites drops of baby, and the baby is a citizen. I want you to give me, not withstanding, Donald Trump, or the constitution itself, if that is common sense.

Thank you for your attention to this matter


@AverageJoe1 said
A good post, but it still begs the question what is your endgame period you have never answered my question, a woman from Romania comes here to see the sites drops of baby, and the baby is a citizen. I want you to give me, not withstanding, Donald Trump, or the constitution itself, if that is common sense.

Thank you for your attention to this matter
Just to respond to one of your many ridiculous analogys, The baby is a US citizen. Case closed.

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@AverageJoe1 said
But…….the question…..
LOOK UP OBSESSION. You are doing it RIGHT NOW. If there are a million such you have an argument maybe, depends on justice rules but you know god damn good and well there are NOT a million such so what is going on here is a form of racism, you don't even have to KNOW the race, you are doing an incredibly disloyal thing going against the CONSTITUTION, you remember that funny little scrap of paper? That and the 1940 setting precedent that has stood for 85 FKING YEARS.

So now TRUMP comes along, doesn't LIKE BC so OF COURSE you being a tried and true Trump propagandist IMMEDIATELY jump on the bandwagon and OF COURSE you have already convinced yourself of just how INCREDIBLY convincing my Lord Trump really is, he is a GENIUS, and thank you my lord for existing.

It seems to me ONLY sociopaths would throw MILLIONS of children in the desert, lost SS#, no jobs available, they are stateless now and just exactly what does your LORD Trump plan to do with them, let me guess, has something to do with the rebuilding of Amazon warehouses no longer needed by Amazon so that 29 million dollar price, Bondi paid ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE MILLION, exactly ONE HUNDRED MILLION over the original sale price, so you OF COURSE could NEVER even understand the concept of corruption but that is just ONE of many such sales, payoffs WAY above the for sale price. BTW, that was OUR money, OUR TAX dollars LOST to GRIFTERS, that money is NOT in the hands of the seller you can bet your ass on that, they secretly turn over such stuff because the KNOW what kind of game is going on and or WAY OK with it, no doubt they get a taste of the green too.

You go, HOW DARE YOU PUT DOWN MY LORD TRUMP. THIS IS DEEPLY OFFENSIVE. RIGHT?

So do you think there is no corruption involved in UAE giving Trump a FOUR HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR JET?
THAT HE GETS TO KEEP?

AS A SITTING POTUS.

No biggie, this is the new norm so suck it up libtard.


@no1marauder said
A great point that I don't think was brought up at oral argument:

"History makes something else clear. When the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, the U.S. had not yet created the elaborate immigration categories debated today. There was no modern distinction between “lawful” and “unlawful” presence. But Congress had already outlawed the international slave trade. [b ...[text shortened]... ir children.https://reason.com/volokh/2026/04/01/justice-barrett-slavery-and-birthright-citizenship/
Then, as you suggest that it is slam dunk that birthright citizenship is just right as rain, what is all of the discussion about at Scotus?


@sonhouse said
LOOK UP OBSESSION. You are doing it RIGHT NOW. If there are a million such you have an argument maybe, depends on justice rules but you know god damn good and well there are NOT a million such so what is going on here is a form of racism, you don't even have to KNOW the race, you are doing an incredibly disloyal thing going against the CONSTITUTION, you remember that funny l ...[text shortened]... AT HE GETS TO KEEP?

AS A SITTING POTUS.

No biggie, this is the new norm so suck it up libtard.
You seem to be the only one upset about the jet, none of the Talking Heads have mentioned it to my knowledge.
Hey, have you weighed on whether the Iran deal is a good idea or should we should get the hell out of there?