Some of the Maga lads did wind up getting convicted of seditious conspiracy for their actions on January 6th, 2021:
" Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was convicted Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for a violent plot to overturn President Joe Biden’s election, handing the Justice Department a major victory in its massive prosecution of the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection.
A Washington, D.C., jury found Rhodes guilty of sedition after three days of deliberations in the nearly two-month-long trial that showcased the far-right extremist group’s efforts to keep Republican Donald Trump in the White House at all costs.
Rhodes was acquitted of two other conspiracy charges. A co-defendant — Kelly Meggs, who led the antigovernment group’s Florida chapter — was also convicted of seditious conspiracy, while three other associates were cleared of that charge. Jurors found all five defendants guilty of obstruction of an official proceeding: Congress’ certification of Biden’s electoral victory."
https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-founder-guilty-of-seditious-conspiracy-42affe1614425c6820f7cbe8fd18ba96
Here's the law in question:
"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
More trials on the charge are on the way for others involved in the attack on the Capitol though MB and Wajoma among others have insisted there's no basis for such a charge.
@no1marauder
You made a false statement about me. I never made the statements you claimed I did. You are also making it clear there are conspiracies which you often poo poo on other people that do. Government clearly believes in conspiracies.
This is a good time to stop contradicting yourself and accept conspiracies are common place.
@metal-brain saidMB: There was no attempted coup. Stop spreading misinformation!
@no1marauder
You made a false statement about me. I never made the statements you claimed I did. You are also making it clear there are conspiracies which you often poo poo on other people that do. Government clearly believes in conspiracies.
This is a good time to stop contradicting yourself and accept conspiracies are common place.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
@no1marauder saidThat is true, there was no attempted coup. Not by Trump anyway. Some of his nutty followers may have, but like the FBI said, it was not coordinated.
MB: There was no attempted coup. Stop spreading misinformation!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
Some people there broke the law. Some destroyed property. I never said "all" protesters did not commit crimes. Stop lying about me. I did say those protesters that were let into the capitol building should not be charged with a crime and I stand by that statement. Do you welcome people into your house with a warm welcome and call the police and accuse them of trespassing?
@shavixmir saidThat is not what the FBI said. One or two nuts that said this or that is not coordinated. I don't even know what they allegedly did. Do you?
Coordinated and planned. Isn’t that what the judge and jury just agreed upon?
@Metal-Brain
Are you really THAT dumb you think Trump didn't egg on the insurrectionists?
Why is it you continue to defend the indefensible? Wait, could it be because your boss Putin TOLD to to keep defending Trump and MAYBE just MAYBE he might be POTUS again in 24 so Putin will be happy again? Well, unless he is dead from cancer.....
@Metal-Brain
How is it that you persistently see conspiracies where there aren't any and fail to see one where an unbiased jury agreed with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt? You are, without a peer, the most ridiculous troll at RHP.
@metal-brain saidThey didn’t allegedly do anything.
That is not what the FBI said. One or two nuts that said this or that is not coordinated. I don't even know what they allegedly did. Do you?
They literallu stormed the seat of government, destroyed stuff, hit police people, threatened to hang the vice president and filmed themselves doing it. And then shared those videos on social media.
They wanted to over turn the election by force. That is an attempted coup. The very FUKKING definition of it.
@shavixmir saidThat is illegal. That is not what Trump asked his followers to do though. As sonhouse well knows Trump said to "protest peacefully and patriotically". Sonhouse has been brainwashed by left wing propaganda that always omits that.
They didn’t allegedly do anything.
They literallu stormed the seat of government, destroyed stuff, hit police people, threatened to hang the vice president and filmed themselves doing it. And then shared those videos on social media.
They wanted to over turn the election by force. That is an attempted coup. The very FUKKING definition of it.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/
So sonhouse keeps lying about Trump because he heard the lie so much himself. What Trump asked people to do and what certain people did are not the same thing.
@moonbus saidThat had nothing to do with Trump. If I told a crowd to peacefully protest super PACs and someone beat someone up is it my fault?
@Metal-Brain
How is it that you persistently see conspiracies where there aren't any and fail to see one where an unbiased jury agreed with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt? You are, without a peer, the most ridiculous troll at RHP.
@metal-brain saidYou keep relying on obsolete, dated information. The Reuters article you keep citing was written in August 2021 and isn't what the FBI says as you keep claiming, but what some reporter says quoting anonymous sources.
That is true, there was no attempted coup. Not by Trump anyway. Some of his nutty followers may have, but like the FBI said, it was not coordinated.
Some people there broke the law. Some destroyed property. I never said "all" protesters did not commit crimes. Stop lying about me. I did say those protesters that were let into the capitol building should not be charged ...[text shortened]... lcome people into your house with a warm welcome and call the police and accuse them of trespassing?
Instead, you could check the actual indictments of people like Rhodes here: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1462481/download
That was filed in January 2022 long after the erroneous article you keep using. In the indictment, it alleges a months long conspiracy to disrupt the Congressional ratification of the 2020 election and the acts and planning done to do so.
This was "coordinated".
@no1marauder saidThose indictments are for individuals that did not "protest peacefully and patriotically". That has nothing to do with the false claim that Trump planned an insurrection. It was not a coordinated coup attempt.
You keep relying on obsolete, dated information. The Reuters article you keep citing was written in August 2021 and isn't what the FBI says as you keep claiming, but what some reporter says quoting anonymous sources.
Instead, you could check the actual indictments of people like Rhodes here: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1462481/download
That was f ...[text shortened]... atification of the 2020 election and the acts and planning done to do so.
This was "coordinated".
You are talking about rouge idiots that thought they were doing the right thing. They did not do what Trump asked people to do.
@metal-brain saidYou do a lot of covering up for Trump, don't you?
Those indictments are for individuals that did not "protest peacefully and patriotically". That has nothing to do with the false claim that Trump planned an insurrection. It was not a coordinated coup attempt.
You are talking about rouge idiots that thought they were doing the right thing. They did not do what Trump asked people to do.
What Trump actually planned isn't known to you or to me. It's obvious he was happy to have the Capitol invaded that day though:
"While Trump’s public silence during much of the violence is already well-known, the panel argues that the new evidence it presented about what happened inside the West Wing showed he purposely didn’t intervene in the chaos until it was clear the mob had failed to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election."
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/21/jan-6-panel-trump-attack-00047130
When Trump said in his speech " And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," what do you think he meant? What could the protesters do that day to save their country in his mind but storm the Capitol and try to prevent the certification of an election he kept telling them was stolen?
Whether that meets the definition of seditious conspiracy probably rests on what other things he did or didn't do, but your pretending he was blameless in what happened on January 6th is just another of your deliberate distortions of reality to favor Trump.
From Trump's speech:
" And then we're stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We're just not going to let that happen."
"We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's capital for one very, very basic and simple reason: To save our democracy."
"We want to go back and we want to get this right because we're going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed and we're not going to stand for that."
"You will have an illegitimate president. That's what you'll have. And we can't let that happen."
"This is not just a matter of domestic politics — this is a matter of national security."
"We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous election fraud never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again."
"If we allow this group of people to illegally take over our country because it's illegal when the votes are illegal when the way they got there is illegal when the states that vote are given false and fraudulent information."
"And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial