Seems like nothing but death can shut her up

there was a time at the turn of the 19th century where some zionists pursued the ideal of purchasing baja california for a new israel. i do believe mexico would have sold it to them since mexico sold the gadsen purchase for five million to the usa a few years before ( the usa needed some flat valleys for a railroad system ) and mexico in the 1920's was quite embroiled in civil conflict so it would not have been hard for the zionist
movement to handed ten million or so to one of the rotating governments in mexico. this would have solved the land question in the mid-east but of course it would not have
re-written the holy quran so the conversion, taxation and or elimination of the jew in the mid-east would have continued for the smaller continuing group still in the mandate.

Originally posted by Metal Brain
It was an alliance of convenience. They enemy of my enemy is my friend, sort of.

The British Empire (through Lawrence of Arabia) promised to give the Arabs the entire Arabian Peninsula in return for their help to help fight the Ottomans and drive them out of the region. The British Empire did not carry through with that promise even though the Arabs d ...[text shortened]... nstalled a puppet government in post WW1 Iraq and encouraged the migration of Jews to Palestine.

"It was an alliance of convenience. They enemy of my enemy is my friend, sort of."

no, the grand mufti was a philosophical ally of the nazis and desired the same end for the jews as did the german socialists.

the grand mufti, aka Al-Husseini practiced what he preached. During the Nuremberg Trials in July 1946, Eichmann’s assistant, Dieter Wisliczeny, testified that Mufti was a central figure in the planning of the genocide of the Jews.

if you had the time you would find more like it in the transcripts of the nuremburg trials.

no, it was an alliance of like minds.

Originally posted by reinfeld
"It was an alliance of convenience. They enemy of my enemy is my friend, sort of."

no, the grand mufti was a philosophical ally of the nazis and desired the same end for the jews as did the german socialists.

the grand mufti, aka Al-Husseini practiced what he preached. During the Nuremberg Trials in July 1946, Eichmann’s assistant, Dieter Wisliczeny, ...[text shortened]... e like it in the transcripts of the nuremburg trials.

no, it was an alliance of like minds.

It looks like his family owned a lot of land that was stolen by the Zionists. That would explain his anti-semitism.

Here is an excerpt from wikipedia.

Amin al-Husayni was born either in 1895[12] or, more probably, in 1897[13] in Jerusalem, the son of the then mufti of that city and prominent early opponent of Zionism, Tahir al-Husayni.[14][15][16] The al-Husayni clan consisted of wealthy landowners in southern Palestine, centred around the district of Jerusalem. Thirteen members of the clan had been Mayors of Jerusalem between 1864 and 1920. Another member of the clan and Amin's half-brother,[17] Kamil al-Husayni, also served as Mufti of Jerusalem. In Jerusalem Amin al-Husayni attended an Islamic school, learnt Turkish at a government school, and studied French successively with French Catholic missionaries and at the Alliance israélite universelle with its Non-Zionist Jewish director Albert Antébi.[18] .[19] He then went to Al-Azhar University in Cairo,[14] where he studied Islamic law for several months under Rashid Rida, a salafi intellectual, who was to remain Amin's mentor till his death in 1935. In 1913 at the age of 18, al-Husayni accompanied his mother to Mecca and received the honorary title of Hajj. Prior to World War I, he studied at the School of Administration in Istanbul, the most secular of Ottoman institutions.[20

He also had a deal with Germany that he would become the leader of Palestine after the British were driven out. I think he was simply looking out for his family's interests and his own.

he made indeed have had a poor history among the jews.

he may indeed have financial reasons.

but he sat across from adolf hitler, he toured the death chambers in poland and he wanted the jews killed.

this is not a defense of zionist activity. it is just the truth that the grand mufti was not a nice person and that the arabs willingly and happily joined forces with the socialist germans and italians ( each for their own visions ) but nonetheless an axis determined
to bring pain to the democracies and human decency.

they lost. when you lose you lose territory. that is the price of war.

Originally posted by reinfeld
he made indeed have had a poor history among the jews.

he may indeed have financial reasons.

but he sat across from adolf hitler, he toured the death chambers in poland and he wanted the jews killed.

this is not a defense of zionist activity. it is just the truth that the grand mufti was not a nice person and that the arabs willingly and happily j ...[text shortened]... s and human decency.

they lost. when you lose you lose territory. that is the price of war.

And the victims become the abusers. Jew war-mongers... stealing land and placing entire countries in a stagnant death chamber prison.

Originally posted by reinfeld
he made indeed have had a poor history among the jews.

he may indeed have financial reasons.

but he sat across from adolf hitler, he toured the death chambers in poland and he wanted the jews killed.

this is not a defense of zionist activity. it is just the truth that the grand mufti was not a nice person and that the arabs willingly and happily j ...[text shortened]... s and human decency.

they lost. when you lose you lose territory. that is the price of war.

Could you please give the names of the battles where the Arabs fought against the Allies in WWII?

war is not merely the swing of the war hammer.

war is also the control of the waterway and the commodity and mineral deposits.

war is also the denial of alliances.

war is the propaganda one uses to keep populations in check.

as napoleon, the great socialist of france taught us, "war is total".

if you think war is merely a bullet then you are still in the playground with toy soldiers.

Originally posted by reinfeld
war is not merely the swing of the war hammer.

war is also the control of the waterway and the commodity and mineral deposits.

war is also the denial of alliances.

war is the propaganda one uses to keep populations in check.

as napoleon, the great socialist of france taught us, "war is total".

if you think war is merely a bullet then you are still in the playground with toy soldiers.

You're a joke. The simple truth is the Palestinians didn't fight in WWII for the Axis, so any claim that the seizure of their land three years AFTER that war was over was justified because "they lost the war" is idiocy.

The sooner Egypt gets democracy the better. Maybe the people will vote to do away with the Israeli gas chambers and open their borders to let the cave men out so they can advance like a human being.

Originally posted by reinfeld
he made indeed have had a poor history among the jews.

he may indeed have financial reasons.

but he sat across from adolf hitler, he toured the death chambers in poland and he wanted the jews killed.

this is not a defense of zionist activity. it is just the truth that the grand mufti was not a nice person and that the arabs willingly and happily j ...[text shortened]... s and human decency.

they lost. when you lose you lose territory. that is the price of war.

His involvement in the holocaust is questionable since Eichmann is the only witness and his story was inconsistent. However, I am going by Wikipedia and since that info could be questionable as well I am willing to look at any other source of info you can provide.

you should look at bigjournalism.com.

http://bigjournalism.com/pgeller/2010/02/07/the-mufti-of-jerusalem-architect-of-the-holocaust/

( and just for editorial cleanliness...i use the name reinfeld here in rememberance of fred reinfeld ( yes, yes, he was a jew ! ) but i am not jewish nor israeli.

( fred reinfeld just wrote some chessbooks and i found them as a young man and kept them for years so when i stopped being gengar here i changed my name to reinfeld but then i should have used lame wolf as i did on schemingmind ).

Originally posted by Metal Brain
His involvement in the holocaust is questionable since Eichmann is the only witness and his story was inconsistent. However, I am going by Wikipedia and since that info could be questionable as well I am willing to look at any other source of info you can provide.

His involvment was not questoinable. He was wanted in the war trials but escaped to Egypt. As for his legacy, his nephew was nonother than Yassar Arafat.

Originally posted by reinfeld
you should look at bigjournalism.com.

http://bigjournalism.com/pgeller/2010/02/07/the-mufti-of-jerusalem-architect-of-the-holocaust/

( and just for editorial cleanliness...i use the name reinfeld here in rememberance of fred reinfeld ( yes, yes, he was a jew ! ) but i am not jewish nor israeli.

( fred reinfeld just wrote some chessbooks and i fo ...[text shortened]... i changed my name to reinfeld but then i should have used lame wolf as i did on schemingmind ).

Well that's certainly a credible and non-biased website.

the truth has no agenda.

labor unions have an agenda.

political parties have an agenda.

etc.

2 plus 2 is 4..we expect 6 and 8...this is the safety of numbers.

politics has no mathematical base...it is all agenda.

the philosophers who live for truth work against an agenda....it is true that some look upward to the heaven for light and the light shows amid the shadows outside the light a choice of discernment...you may "call" that an agenda ( because you are labor or politcal ) but i perceive it as the direction of the light of truth.

Originally posted by sh76
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/02/18/2743034/helen-thomas-jews-were-not-persecuted-in-europe-after-war-so-should-have-stayed-there

[quote]Former White House correspondent Helen Thomas said the Jews did not have to leave postwar Europe because they weren’t persecuted.

In an interview Wednesday on CNN’s “Joy Behar” program, Thomas told Behar that once ...[text shortened]... ng her, so I'm, pushing the envelope just to see how far she can go without losing all support.

This was an ill advised statement, but not entirely incorrect. With the collapse of the Nazi's, and the news of Jews dying in concentration camps, much sympathy was felt for Jewish survivors all around Europe, and the need to flee Europe after the war, was not as dire as first thought. I'm not defending her, only pointing out that her statement, while thoughtless and callous, contained some truth.

As far as Jews taking others land...I think the jury is still out on that one.😕