06 Jun 07
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The Toronto "Balcony Rapist" has been released from prison after serving 20 years in prison and completing 5 rounds of pysch treatment after he was sent to jail for raping 5 separate women who lived in apartment buildings. ( He used to climb up the outside of the building using the balconies)
After his release he moved to a small town near Vancouver. The town is in an uproar and want him to leave town because the women there are afraid he'll come after them now. The women don't care where he goes, they just want him out of their town.
Consider, this guy served his sentence that was supposed to be his debt to society deemed as 20 years of his life. He completed therapy and is required to follow strict release terms or else he goes back to jail. The police are keeping an eye on him.
Do you think the residents of the town have the right to demand he move away? If so, where should he move to...a town with no one in it?
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by uzlessHe should have been shot twenty years ago.
The Toronto "Balcony Rapist" has been released from prison after serving 20 years in prison and completing 5 rounds of pysch treatment after he was sent to jail for raping 5 separate women who lived in apartment buildings. ( He used to climb up the outside of the building using the balconies)
After his release he moved to a small town near Vancouver. Th ...[text shortened]... he right to demand he move away? If so, where should he move to...a town with no one in it?
06 Jun 07
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Originally posted by uzlessA similar situation came up here with a convicted sex offender named Carey Verse.
The Toronto "Balcony Rapist" has been released from prison after serving 20 years in prison and completing 5 rounds of pysch treatment after he was sent to jail for raping 5 separate women who lived in apartment buildings. ( He used to climb up the outside of the building using the balconies)
After his release he moved to a small town near Vancouver. Th he right to demand he move away? If so, where should he move to...a town with no one in it?
He was chased from town to town and finally settled somewhere, only to be re-arrested for violating the terms of his probation, with a 12-year old in his car. There was never any accusation that he did anything illegal with this boy other than violating the terms of his probation. And yet, it's fairly clear that the guy should have remained in jail and luckly was returned to where he belongs.
My feeling, in both cases, is that people should stop focusing on the individuals, but rather focus on the laws and law enforcement that applies. If people need life sentences for rape to protect women, then that should be addressed by politicians, not mobs of angry afraid women.
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by uzlessAre you concerned that his civil liberties are being curtailed?
The Toronto "Balcony Rapist" has been released from prison after serving 20 years in prison and completing 5 rounds of pysch treatment after he was sent to jail for raping 5 separate women who lived in apartment buildings. ( He used to climb up the outside of the building using the balconies)
After his release he moved to a small town near Vancouver. Th ...[text shortened]... he right to demand he move away? If so, where should he move to...a town with no one in it?
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by uzlessYes they have a right to be concerned.
The Toronto "Balcony Rapist" has been released from prison after serving 20 years in prison and completing 5 rounds of pysch treatment after he was sent to jail for raping 5 separate women who lived in apartment buildings. ( He used to climb up the outside of the building using the balconies)
After his release he moved to a small town near Vancouver. Th ...[text shortened]... he right to demand he move away? If so, where should he move to...a town with no one in it?
Where can he go? HMMM Back to jail which is where he will probably be in a few short years anyway. Or someone should just tell one of the people that were violated and he will be dead and they in jail.
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by uzlessPsychiatrists are the witch doctors of the 20th and 21st centuries, so I don't think anyone is ever "cured," especially sex criminals (Kevin Bacon in "The Woodsman" aside). Since one aspect of prison is to protect the rest of us from predators, and these mean, vicious sorts can't help themselves (I've seen enough NBC Dateline "To Catch A Predator" episodes) I think they should all be rounded up and sent to live in isolation. Detroit or New Orleans might make a good place for consignment since those cities are already dying and no business occurs there anyway.
No, i'm asking what you think...don't alter the question to one that you want to answer.
You'd make a good politician (republican of course)
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by Brother EdwinI notice no one is answering the question, rather just stating what they think should have happened to this guy instead of being released.
He should of been killed to begin with.
Well, the fact is, he has been released so what do you with him?
fyi, Canada does not administer the death penalty.
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by uzlessI answered both of your questions.
I notice no one is answering the question, rather just stating what they think should have happened to this guy instead of being released.
Well, the fact is, he has been released so what do you with him?
fyi, Canada does not administer the death penalty.
Yes.
Back in prison, the only place that might want him!!!
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by uzlessIn principle no, in practice, yes.
The Toronto "Balcony Rapist" has been released from prison after serving 20 years in prison and completing 5 rounds of pysch treatment after he was sent to jail for raping 5 separate women who lived in apartment buildings. ( He used to climb up the outside of the building using the balconies)
After his release he moved to a small town near Vancouver. Th ...[text shortened]... he right to demand he move away? If so, where should he move to...a town with no one in it?
If he is "cured" then its very unfortunate. What's past is past and I think everyone should have a chance at redemption, no matter what they've done in the past. Maybe what would be best (in an ideal world which strangely has a rapist in it) is for whoever declares him fit for society be partly accountable for any future crimes of similar nature he commits. In that way therapists etc would have to be SURE he's not going to re-offend if they're thinking of re-releasing him.
Nothing should take away from how horrific his crimes were, but at the same time he is a human being (no matter how despicable his actions were), and if he has been rehabilitated and it's certain he will not re-offend, then the past should remain where it is.
Problem is, I don't think anyone is of high enough authority to make that call, and it'll be a while before psychologists will have a good enough idea, and we should spend the time and effort on improving counseling for rape victims.
In the end I hope that people will make him suffer in some way for as long his victims will.
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by mrstabbyDo you think that anyone (this is real not a perfect world) would deam him fit for society if they were going to be held liable for his actions as well as he?
In principle no, in practice, yes.
If he is "cured" then its very unfortunate. What's past is past and I think everyone should have a chance at redemption, no matter what they've done in the past. Maybe what would be best (in an ideal world which strangely has a rapist in it) is for whoever declares him fit for society be partly accountable for any futur ...[text shortened]... e end I hope that people will make him suffer in some way for as long his victims will.
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by torch71I could see it happening, but I'm no psychologist and I have no idea how well they believe they can predict this sort of thing.
Do you think that anyone (this is real not a perfect world) would deam him fit for society if they were going to be held liable for his actions as well as he?
There'd be few takers, that's for sure.
