@averagejoe1 saida billion
It has been suggested in the Heroic thread that the amount of fines paid by law breakers (speeding, etc) be based on their incomes.....'that, we might pay $100.00, but that Bezos pay more like a million.
What does everyone think about that?
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Bezos should pay a billion if he goes over the speed limit
@zahlanzi saidYour position shows no logic and just reflects the fact that you are a vindictive bitter person. No one on this entire planet would think an appropriate punishment for a minor violation is a billion dollar fine. It would in essence make it prohibitive for him to be in public because he'd be at risk for a billion dollar fine for littering if he dropped something or if he misread a parking sign. It would also cause vindictive people like yourself to suggest that the government should track rich people for revenue purposes.
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Bezos should pay a billion if he goes over the speed limit
@quackquack said"No one on this entire planet would think an appropriate punishment for a minor violation is a billion dollar fine."
Your position shows no logic and just reflects the fact that you are a vindictive bitter person. No one on this entire planet would think an appropriate punishment for a minor violation is a billion dollar fine. It would in essence make it prohibitive for him to be in public because he'd be at risk for a billion dollar fine for littering if he dropped something or if he ...[text shortened]... e people like yourself to suggest that the government should track rich people for revenue purposes.
No one on this entire planet would think Bezos would give a fuk if he is fined 100 dollars for driving 120km/h through a residential area.
"It would in essence make it prohibitive for him to be in public because he'd be at risk for a billion dollar fine for littering if he dropped something or if he misread a parking sign"
Good.
100$ is equally prohibitive for someone living paycheck to paycheck. That way they abstain from littering or "misreading a parking sign".
Fines are meant to be a deterrent. Fines are meant to be felt. That if you think about doing something that would inconvenience someone, you would think "it's not worth the fine"
" It would also cause vindictive people like yourself to suggest that the government should track rich people for revenue purposes."
Good.
If they don't break the law, they have nothing to worry about. Isn't that one of the arguments you regularly use?
@zahlanzi saidI distinctly remember a time when I was in graduate school, parked in a metered spot, set a timer and went to class. I returned (running) to my vehicle to find an officer standing over my meter and waiting for seconds to tick down. I exclaimed "whew, I got here just in time" and with 10 seconds still on the clock she hit print on her little device and handed me the ticket.
"No one on this entire planet would think an appropriate punishment for a minor violation is a billion dollar fine."
No one on this entire planet would think Bezos would give a fuk if he is fined 100 dollars for driving 120km/h through a residential area.
"It would in essence make it prohibitive for him to be in public because he'd be at risk for a billion dollar fine f ...[text shortened]... break the law, they have nothing to worry about. Isn't that one of the arguments you regularly use?
The $100 was devastating. I was living in squalor at the time, and it took everything I had not to get angry with the lady. I could not understand why she issued a ticket for someone who was standing at their vehicle but we live in a society with exorbitant rules. I had no time or means or clear-cut case for fighting the fine.
I also could not help but think that if I had means then I would not have cared at all. If I had the power of Jeff Bezos and the fine had teeth, then the parking meters would have been ripped out the next day.
@averagejoe1 saidI agree. I’ve always thought it’s ridiculous that the numeric value of a punishment fine is the same for a billionaire as it is for a pauper.
It has been suggested in the Heroic thread that the amount of fines paid by law breakers (speeding, etc) be based on their incomes.....'that, we might pay $100.00, but that Bezos pay more like a million.
What does everyone think about that?
It should b be levied as a % of the transgressors anual income. If it’s meant to be a punishment then of course the impact on the punished should be equal.
@quackquack saidI think your missing the point. A million dollar fine for bezos is not as prohibitive as a thousand dollar fine for someone on minimum wage. It’s a punishment it has to punish.
Your position shows no logic and just reflects the fact that you are a vindictive bitter person. No one on this entire planet would think an appropriate punishment for a minor violation is a billion dollar fine. It would in essence make it prohibitive for him to be in public because he'd be at risk for a billion dollar fine for littering if he dropped something or if he ...[text shortened]... e people like yourself to suggest that the government should track rich people for revenue purposes.
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@averagejoe1 saidThere are many countries in Europe with this system, and it seems to be working well.
It has been suggested in the Heroic thread that the amount of fines paid by law breakers (speeding, etc) be based on their incomes.....'that, we might pay $100.00, but that Bezos pay more like a million.
What does everyone think about that?
Why do you feel the need to make your punctuation look like computer code? (?!!?!?)
Are your computer keys malfunctioning?
@mchill saidNo, they are fine. And I apologize for the 'optics' of the SHouse posts, but it is to expand my sentence from a question to an unbelievable query.
There are many countries in Europe with this system, and it seems to be working well.
Why do you feel the need to make your punctuation look like computer code? (?!!?!?)
Are your computer keys malfunctioning?
So to your post, are you saying that those countries would charge, say, a percentage of a person's income as the fine? At one percent, An income of $40K would be a fine of $400. For a man making $4M, it would be $40,000. Obviously you don't mean that, so are you saying another sliding scale. What would be your example, as is mine here.?
@averagejoe1 saiddo away with monetary fines, require community service
It has been suggested in the Heroic thread that the amount of fines paid by law breakers (speeding, etc) be based on their incomes.....'that, we might pay $100.00, but that Bezos pay more like a million.
What does everyone think about that?
@mchill saidHe’s a very arrogant American who is under the illusion that this is a US website and therefore you mustn’t mention other countries in debates even when the thing being debated can be considered a universal quandary. 🤷🏻♂️
There are many countries in Europe with this system, and it seems to be working well.
Why do you feel the need to make your punctuation look like computer code? (?!!?!?)
Are your computer keys malfunctioning?
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@averagejoe1 saidAn income of $40K would be a fine of $400. For a man making $4M, it would be $40,000. Obviously you don't mean that,
No, they are fine. And I apologize for the 'optics' of the SHouse posts, but it is to expand my sentence from a question to an unbelievable query.
So to your post, are you saying that those countries would charge, say, a percentage of a person's income as the fine? At one percent, An income of $40K would be a fine of $400. For a man making $4M, it would be $40,000. ...[text shortened]... t mean that, so are you saying another sliding scale. What would be your example, as is mine here.?
Yes, I do mean that. A fine for illegal behavior needs to be a real deterrent against future illegal behavior. Fining a millionaire with a 4 million dollar income $400.00 for an illegal act has about as much impact as the average citizen losing 25 cents in a malfunctioning gumball machine. There is little or no deterrent in that at all.