Originally posted by Eladar Who's going to make sure all those Indians and Indonesians are going to stop popping out the kids?
The birth rate in Indonesia has fallen dramatically as a result of government policies. One wonders how you can be BOTH so willing to comment on this serious issue AND be ignorant of what has been going on.
Originally posted by generalissimo oh yes, its so good to have big government deciding how many children you should have.
there's no need to have such policy, the thing to do is to educate poor people about contraception.
I think it is good.........and when billons of people are fighting for water and food in the near future they wish they'd agreed and done something about it.
Education isn't the answer. People have already been educated on wearing condoms and taking the pill - they choose not to. Protection is available for free and yet children are still being born where they have no chance of elevating themselves. The child restriction must apply to everyone, wealthy or not.
Originally posted by ich binimKopfweg Education isn't the answer.
Of course it is. As is prosperity. And financial security. Birth rates have been falling rapidly in the developing world. The Malthusian doom stories of the 1970s now seem clearly overblown. The only country that tried to legislate how many children people can have - China - probably didn't need to.
Originally posted by ich binimKopfweg I think it is good.........and when billons of people are fighting for water and food in the near future they wish they'd agreed and done something about it.
Education isn't the answer. People have already been educated on wearing condoms and taking the pill - they choose not to. Protection is available for free and yet children are still being b ...[text shortened]... chance of elevating themselves. The child restriction must apply to everyone, wealthy or not.
"I think it is good.........and when billons of people are fighting for water and food in the near future they wish they'd agreed and done something about it."
If it were me and I was Soooo concerned about the world and its over population I would do the ultimate sacrifice for humanity and commit suicide. Afterwards there would be a little more food and water to spread around and no chance of me ever having kids myself.
Originally posted by FMF Of course it is. As is prosperity. And financial security. Birth rates have been falling rapidly in the developing world. The Malthusian doom stories of the 1970s now seem clearly overblown. The only country that tried to legislate how many children people can have - China - probably didn't need to.
You mention China - this country desperately needed to control it's population and it worked to a national extent. LEDC's are fully aware of protection but they don't want to follow the example. Education has been tried, tested and in this instance failed. The natural balance of people and sustainability has been ruptured. It doesn't matter whether the difference is 2 or 10 children, they will all go on to have children etc. It just isn't feasible anymore.
If persuasion doesn't work (and it clearly doesn't considering the children still being born with aids when it could have been prevented and growing up in poverty with little to eat, drinking contaminated water) then laws must be put in place to stop the rapid increase of the population.
Originally posted by ich binimKopfweg I think it is good.........and when billons of people are fighting for water and food in the near future they wish they'd agreed and done something about it.
Education isn't the answer. People have already been educated on wearing condoms and taking the pill - they choose not to. Protection is available for free and yet children are still being b ...[text shortened]... chance of elevating themselves. The child restriction must apply to everyone, wealthy or not.
Nobody should have the power to decide how many children you have, its as simple as that. Its up to the people to decide whether or not they're in a position (economically) to have kids.
People do use contraception, only a minority choose not to, and even then, you can still have abortions.
Originally posted by utherpendragon [b]"I think it is good.........and when billons of people are fighting for water and food in the near future they wish they'd agreed and done something about it."
If it were me and I was Soooo concerned about the world and its over population I would do the ultimate sacrifice for humanity and commit suicide. Afterwards there would be a little more food and water to spread around and no chance of me ever having kids myself.[/b]
Originally posted by generalissimo Nobody should have the power to decide how many children you have, its as simple as that. Its up to the people to decide whether or not they're in a position (economically) to have kids.
People do use contraception, only a minority choose not to, and even then, you can still have abortions.
That's just it though - so many are not able to provide economically. I think it's horrible that the amount of children allowed should be dictated too but at the end of day we should help the people already on this planet, not bring more in.
Originally posted by ich binimKopfweg That's just it though - so many are not able to provide economically. I think it's horrible that the amount of children allowed should be dictated too but at the end of day we should help the people already on this planet, not bring more in.
I believe most people nowadays understand the cost involved with children, there's no need for the govt to limit parents to one child. Its common sense.
Originally posted by generalissimo I believe most people nowadays understand the cost involved with children, there's no need for the govt to limit parents to one child. Its common sense.
Which a lot of people, as I've already said, don't have.
Originally posted by generalissimo I believe most people nowadays understand the cost involved with children, there's no need for the govt to limit parents to one child. Its common sense.
And for those that do not, an additional child tax could help. Not surprising the US tax code does the exact opposite. Low income familes can see enormous increases in their marginal subsidy (since few are paying taxes) from the Child Tax Credit.