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"But the most chilling behavior arguably came from Hawk Newsome, who founded BLM of Greater New York. Newsome went before the national media and uttered what could be regarded as a chilling threat.



Newsome called for ‘black vigilantes’ to be unleashed on the public and seemingly suggested they could kill white people for running their mouths. He then said black people must hold community events to discuss ‘what they need’ to carry out their actions.



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/here-we-go-blm-leader-appears-threaten-violence/


This is one thread that @No1Marauder won't be posting in.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
"But the most chilling behavior arguably came from Hawk Newsome, who founded BLM of Greater New York. Newsome went before the national media and uttered what could be regarded as a chilling threat.



Newsome called for ‘black vigilantes’ to be unleashed on the public and seemingly suggested they could kill white people for running their mouths. He then said black ...[text shortened]... ns.



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/here-we-go-blm-leader-appears-threaten-violence/
Absolutely disgusting. The love of BLM knows no bounds. Interested to hear how some people here will defend this statement.

Who are the real racists?????????

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@boonon said
Absolutely disgusting. The love of BLM knows no bounds. Interested to hear how some people here will defend this statement.

Who are the real racists?????????
how many blacks has BLM helped? they get b=millions/ billions of dollars but I cant find any poor family they have helped. only their higher ups buying mansions


@Mott-The-Hoople said
"But the most chilling behavior arguably came from Hawk Newsome, who founded BLM of Greater New York. Newsome went before the national media and uttered what could be regarded as a chilling threat.



Newsome called for ‘black vigilantes’ to be unleashed on the public and seemingly suggested they could kill white people for running their mouths. He then said black ...[text shortened]... ns.



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/here-we-go-blm-leader-appears-threaten-violence/
No; not arrested. He's close to the line, but not over it. What he said was still protected by the First Amendment.

He is an evil person, though, IMO, and is representing his movement in a way that should turn off most people.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
"But the most chilling behavior arguably came from Hawk Newsome, who founded BLM of Greater New York. Newsome went before the national media and uttered what could be regarded as a chilling threat.



Newsome called for ‘black vigilantes’ to be unleashed on the public and seemingly suggested they could kill white people for running their mouths. He then said black ...[text shortened]... ns.



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/here-we-go-blm-leader-appears-threaten-violence/
some black people are racist. Some white people are racist. Some asians are racist. Why does this surprise you?

But you don't arrest people for saying words out loud. Only some millennials think that way.


@Earl-of-Trumps said
This is one thread that @No1Marauder won't be posting in.
You're still batting .000.

Anyone can create an organization and call it whatever they please, but Newsome has never headed any official chapter of BLM nor did he ever agree to the group's core principles (which, of course, include nonviolence). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk_Newsome


@no1marauder said
You're still batting .000.

Anyone can create an organization and call it whatever they please, but Newsome has never headed any official chapter of BLM nor did he ever agree to the group's core principles (which, of course, include nonviolence). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawk_Newsome
you judge them by what they DO, not what they say


@sh76 said
No; not arrested. He's close to the line, but not over it. What he said was still protected by the First Amendment.

He is an evil person, though, IMO, and is representing his movement in a way that should turn off most people.
so you think he wasnt encouraging violence?


@Mott-The-Hoople said
so you think he wasnt encouraging violence?
Encouraging violence is still protected by the First Amendment.

Under Brandenburg v. Ohio, incitement is only not protected by the First Amendment if it is intended to and likely to cause imminent lawless action.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1968/492

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@sh76 said
Encouraging violence is still protected by the First Amendment.

Under Brandenburg v. Ohio, incitement is only not protected by the First Amendment if it is intended to and likely to cause imminent lawless action.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1968/492
In context, I'm not sure he "encouraged violence " anyway.

He believes Penny acted like a vigilante, killed a black man for "being loud" and that many are applauding him for doing so. The comments regarding black vigilantes doing the same thing to "loud" whites seems more like a "how would you like it if" scenario then an actual call to murder.

I'd agree the remarks are intemperate but clearly they aren't incitement.


@sh76 said
Encouraging violence is still protected by the First Amendment.

Under Brandenburg v. Ohio, incitement is only not protected by the First Amendment if it is intended to and likely to cause imminent lawless action.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1968/492
left this part out


"Likely to produce imminent violent conduct"


@Mott-The-Hoople said
left this part out


"Likely to produce imminent violent conduct"
I don't think I left that out, but what imminent violence was likely based on the speech?


@sh76 said
I don't think I left that out, but what imminent violence was likely based on the speech?
Riot? Jan 6 stuff? Thus jailable offense?


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The thing is, I just saw a panel interviewed on TV and Not One Of Them could figure out why Biden Gave $10B to Iran. Do you think it is to must make life difficult for Trump? Would the snivellling old basterd do that?
Are y'all OK with that? Wiregrass has just tried to work me over, to no avail, about how Trump spends money or some such. Trump did not give $10B to our arch enemy.