@no1marauder said'...retained by the people' (note no capitalization of people, only Marx and you do that)....
"Rights" don't have to be "covered" in the DoC or Constitution to exist. The Constitution says so:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Ninth Amendment, US Constitution
The Framers believed we had rights even if you don't. I don't happen to agree with Bernie that medic ...[text shortened]... something a just society should provide to its People), but I tend to take a Lockean view of rights.
That phrase most likely means that the people, through laws and agreements, can make anything a right if they want to. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO VET CARE FOR OUR DOGS.
But right now, there is no dog right, and there is no healthcare right, so Bernie lied. Please repeat after me..'Bernie lied
'. Jesus.
@averagejoe1 saidActually if you had ever read them, you'd know "the People" is capitalized three times in the Declaration of Independence and in the Preamble to the Constitution.
'...retained by the people' (note no capitalization of people, only Marx and you do that)....
That phrase most likely means that the people, through laws and agreements, can make anything a right if they want to. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO VET CARE FOR OUR DOGS.
But right now, there is no dog right, and there is no healthcare right, so Bernie lied. Please repeat after me..'Bernie lied
'. Jesus.
@averagejoe1 saidlol We the People is capitalized in the US constitution. It's supposed to signify that we are all in this together.
'...retained by the people' (note no capitalization of people, only Marx and you do that)....
That phrase most likely means that the people, through laws and agreements, can make anything a right if they want to. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO VET CARE FOR OUR DOGS.
But right now, there is no dog right, and there is no healthcare right, so Bernie lied. Please repeat after me..'Bernie lied
'. Jesus.
@wildgrass saidIn this together with those people who killed 6 in Chicago yesterday? That phrase, used by liberals, purely sucks .
lol We the People is capitalized in the US constitution. It's supposed to signify that we are all in this together.
Since I refuse to be 'in together' with them, I believe that the phrase is thus a lie, as it says we are ALL in this together,, but I am not. So, some are in this together, including all the liberals in this country.
I said it and I'm glad.
@averagejoe1 saidnope.
@AverageJoe1
Uhh, is this thread still about the horrible congressperson Tlaib?
it's about people addressing whatever dumb crap you last spouted.
@averagejoe1 saidI already debunked your "big point"; if the law gets passed, Tlaib wouldn't get rent from her tenants (assuming they were renting a primary residence) and would have to apply to the government fund for reimbursement, just like other landlords.
I'm talking about cultures who do things dif than other cultures, things which fly in the face of other cultures. We jail thieves, some cultures cut off their hands. Some slaughter goats in their back yards. If law says dont do that, it will not end there,,,,out will come the machetes. Go ahead and pretend you do not get this, it's cool. Head in the sand. Hope your ...[text shortened]... ment on that, you seem to have overlooked my point. It is a big point.
Can you comment on that?
Would you like me to "comment on that" a dozen more times?
@no1marauder saidNote that you are referring to what she 'would do' if the bill passes, you say "She wouldn't get rent from her tenants". But I am telling you fellers what she is doing NOW. Libs skip over so much of the crux of a matter.
I already debunked your "big point"; if the law gets passed, Tlaib wouldn't get rent from her tenants (assuming they were renting a primary residence) and would have to apply to the government fund for reimbursement, just like other landlords.
Would you like me to "comment on that" a dozen more times?
Today, right now, she is collecting rent while supporting the bill. You are correct, the law would shut her down from collecting the rent she is collecting now.
Again, you write about her not being able to collect rent when the bill passes. Riiiiight. But you simply do not comment on what you think about the direct issue,, which is that NOW, TODAY, prior to the bill passing (or not) she is collecting rent from renters.
Whew. OK, start dancing
@averagejoe1 saidI commented on that on p. 1 of the thread to wit:
Note that you are referring to what she 'would do' if the bill passes, you say "She wouldn't get rent from her tenants". But I am telling you fellers what she is doing NOW. Libs skip over so much of the crux of a matter.
Today, right now, she is collecting rent while supporting the bill. You are correct, the law would shut her down from collecting the rent she is ...[text shortened]... r to the bill passing (or not) she is collecting rent from renters.
Whew. OK, start dancing
"It's legal to rent or write and sell a book and just because you're a leftist doesn't mean you take a vow of poverty."
@no1marauder saidClassic Marauder. "It is legal to rent.....etc etc..." Yes, I am here with Marauder to enlighten everyone that it is legal to rent. Glad we got that out there.
I commented on that on p. 1 of the thread to wit:
"It's legal to rent or write and sell a book and just because you're a leftist doesn't mean you take a vow of poverty."
Now, back to the issue, the woman is taking rent NOW while saying it should not be required of a renter to pay rent. It is LEGAL, for this horrible Tlaib to take the rent from a renter, just like Marauder says. Whew.
Do y'all know that she is, at the same time, sponsoring a bill saying that it should not be required of a renter to pay rent? Is this immoral, hypocritical, ,,,,what is it? What word do I use when I tell my high schooler what this person is doing, as your children are sposed to be respectful of our congressmen and congresswomen?
Marauder has dodged, and re-written, and rebranded, this interesting kerfuffle for 5 days. Maybe someone else can answer?
@averagejoe1 saidNo, it isn't "immoral or hypocritical" and you've given no rational reason to think it is.
Classic Marauder. "It is legal to rent.....etc etc..." Yes, I am here with Marauder to enlighten everyone that it is legal to rent. Glad we got that out there.
Now, back to the issue, the woman is taking rent NOW while saying it should not be required of a renter to pay rent. It is LEGAL, for this horrible Tlaib to take the rent from a renter, just like Marauder ...[text shortened]... nd re-written, and rebranded, this interesting kerfuffle for 5 days. Maybe someone else can answer?
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@no1marauder saidYeah, im still searching for the proper def of whatnthis creature is doing. But, we know it ‘just ain’t right’, dont we.
No, it isn't "immoral or hypocritical" and you've given no rational reason to think it is.
I think I’ll just settle with that.
If you are telling your daughter about this abomination, how would you explain it ti her?
And is abomination a good word?
@averagejoe1 saidNo, it isn't.
Yeah, im still searching for the proper def of whatnthis creature is doing. But, we know it ‘just ain’t right’, dont we.
I think I’ll just settle with that.
If you are telling your daughter about this abomination, how would you explain it ti her?
And is abomination a good word?
This conversation has reached stupid levels and I'm not going to waste further time with it. You've failed to come up with any sensible reason why collecting rent from property is "immoral and/or hypocritical" while proposing a law that would give renters relief while reimbursing landlords for any losses.
@no1marauder saidFair enough, and I think I was better on this issue, I said it and I'm glad.
No, it isn't.
This conversation has reached stupid levels and I'm not going to waste further time with it. You've failed to come up with any sensible reason why collecting rent from property is "immoral and/or hypocritical" while proposing a law that would give renters relief while reimbursing landlords for any losses.
It Still Aint Right.
@averagejoe1 saidIt seems like your hyper-modern conservative viewpoint is inconsistent with the Constitution's writings.
In this together with those people who killed 6 in Chicago yesterday? That phrase, used by liberals, purely sucks .
Since I refuse to be 'in together' with them, I believe that the phrase is thus a lie, as it says we are ALL in this together,, but I am not. So, some are in this together, including all the liberals in this country.
I said it and I'm glad.
I always thought the reason to capitalize We the People is to signify that the government, the economy, the military etc. work for the People and not the other way around. I don't know how you keep running into communist undertones in the Constitution. It wasn't written by Karl Marx.