@mott-the-hoople saidYour article shows that Rittenhouse was almost certainly violating Wisconsin law even if we believe his lawyer statement that the gun was not his:
his home state doesnt have anything to do with it...
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/26/wisconsin-open-carry-law-kyle-rittenhouse-legally-have-gun-kenosha-protest-shooting-17-year-old/3444231001/
"Under Wisconsin statutes that say anyone under 18 who "goes armed" with any deadly weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, was not old enough to legally carry the assault-style rifle he had."
To be fair, some of the circumstances around the Rittenhouse shooting are murky and he may possibly have a self-defense claim; the NYT times article says shots were fired by others at times during the incident: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html
This is a balanced article by the conservative National Review: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/does-kyle-rittenhouse-have-a-self-defense-claim/
@no1marauder saidI like it ...”assault style” man that “assault style” rifle saved this child from being killed. These rioters were armed too, are you concerned with whether they were carrying legally?
Your article shows that Rittenhouse was almost certainly violating Wisconsin law even if we believe his lawyer statement that the gun was not his:
"Under Wisconsin statutes that say anyone under 18 who "goes armed" with any deadly weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, was not old enough to legally carry the assault-style rifle he had."
The two killed, and one injured were convicted felons.
@mott-the-hoople saidLet the facts come out; I'm not interested in your claims without any proof.
I like it ...”assault style” man that “assault style” rifle saved this child from being killed. These rioters were armed too, are you concerned with whether they were carrying legally?
The two killed, and one injured were convicted felons.
"That child" had no business being there; he was manipulated by extremists.
@no1marauder saidthe rioters had no business being there! that is your error
Let the facts come out; I'm not interested in your claims without any proof.
"That child" had no business being there; he was manipulated by extremists.
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@mott-the-hoople saidDo you have any evidence whatsoever that the persons shot by the 17 year old (recruited and apparently armed by a right wing extremist group) were "rioting"?
the rioters had no business being there! that is your error
He and the other members of the right wing "militia" were in violation of the curfew imposed by Kenosha authorities just as much as any protesters.
@no1marauder said"Do you have any evidence whatsoever that the persons shot by the 17 year old (recruited and apparently armed by a right wing extremist group) were "rioting"? "
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that the persons shot by the 17 year old (recruited and apparently armed by a right wing extremist group) were "rioting"?
He and the other members of the right wing "militia" were in violation of the curfew imposed by Kenosha authorities just as much as any protesters.
Do you have ant evidence those shot were protesting? do you have ant evidence the kid was recruited and armed by a right wing extremist group? I didnt think so.
@no1marauder saidBut how was he manipulated?
Let the facts come out; I'm not interested in your claims without any proof.
"That child" had no business being there; he was manipulated by extremists.
He's a military age young man who had finished working as a lifeguard. He's at an age where he makes decisions about going to university, going to the military, etc.
When I was 17, I was in the military, along with tens of thousands of other 17-year-olds.
He's basically an adult.
He can be trusted with operating vehicles that weigh a ton, working a job, opening a bank account; he can make a decision to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt for university or join the miltary. He can encourage his 17-year-old girlfriend to have an abortion, and, in many states, that would mean not having the onus of notifying the parents...
I am just sick of the idea that older teens are children.
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@philokalia saidYou can't join the military in the US at 17 unless you have parental consent. https://www.usa.gov/join-military
But how was he manipulated?
He's a military age young man who had finished working as a lifeguard. He's at an age where he makes decisions about going to university, going to the military, etc.
When I was 17, I was in the military, along with tens of thousands of other 17-year-olds.
He's basically an adult.
He can be trusted with operating vehicles that weig ...[text shortened]... g the onus of notifying the parents...
I am just sick of the idea that older teens are children.
He couldn't get married in his home state without parental consent. https://www.illinoisdivorce.com/marriage-formalities-in-illinois#:~:text=Marriage%3A%20Illinois'%20laws%20on%20marriage,750%20ILCS%205%2F208.
You can't vote in the US at 17.
It was illegal for him to own a rifle in his home State and the State that he killed someone in.
A 17 year old can't work in any job the Secretary of Labor has declared "hazardous". https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/youthlabor/hazardousjobs
You are wrong about bank accounts:
"For people under the age of 18, opening a bank account is hard. The problem is that you need to sign a contract to open an account, and contracts signed by minors are complicated. State laws and corporate policies vary, but most banks aren’t going to open accounts for anybody under 18 unless there’s also an adult on the account.1"
https://www.thebalance.com/bank-accounts-for-people-under-18-315365
So, no he wasn't an "adult".
No responsible adult would give a 17 year old a rifle and tell him to "defend" some used car lot. That these "militia" nuts did so shows the extent of their extremism and depravity.
@no1marauder saidwhen under attack from “adult” felons the kid handled himself very good, and saved his life doing so.
You can't join the military in the US at 17 unless you have parental consent. https://www.usa.gov/join-military
He couldn't get married in his home state without parental consent. https://www.illinoisdivorce.com/marriage-formalities-in-illinois#:~:text=Marriage%3A%20Illinois'%20laws%20on%20marriage,750%20ILCS%205%2F208.
You can't vote in the US at 17.
It was ill ...[text shortened]... me used car lot. That these "militia" nuts did so shows the extent of their extremism and depravity.
@philokalia saidhe is ENTERING adulthood.
But how was he manipulated?
He's a military age young man who had finished working as a lifeguard. He's at an age where he makes decisions about going to university, going to the military, etc.
When I was 17, I was in the military, along with tens of thousands of other 17-year-olds.
He's basically an adult.
He can be trusted with operating vehicles that weig ...[text shortened]... g the onus of notifying the parents...
I am just sick of the idea that older teens are children.
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@mott-the-hoople saidThis kid is likely to spend decades in prison because he was used as a prop by cowardly extremists like yourself.
when under attack from “adult” felons the kid handled himself very good, and saved his life doing so.
And you still want to use him for political propaganda purposes. Disgusting.
@mott-the-hoople saidHe'll be most likely "entering adulthood" in prison because of people like you.
he is ENTERING adulthood.
@no1marauder saidhe will plead to some misdemeanors and walk free...in our country a person has the right to defend themselves.
He's likely to spend decades in prison because he was used as a prop by cowardly extremists like yourself.
@mott-the-hoople said"Defending yourself" rarely means going across State lines and arming yourself to stand with an extremist group just looking for an excuse to kill someone.
he will plead to some misdemeanors and walk free...in our country a person has the right to defend themselves.
If you really think that the DA are going to plea bargain a murder case down to some misdemeanors, you are almost as childish as this kid was.