Student Loan Forgiveness

@no1marauder said
Howard though he and other "great men" shouldn't have to "adhere to the wishes of others because of societal dictates" not that the average peasant shouldn't have to adhere to their wishes. From his tedious trial speech:

"No work is ever done collectively, by a majority decision [Of course, the vast majority of work is done collectively and always has been - no1]. Ever ...[text shortened]... ml

One "great man" with the rest to obey is the "only pattern for proper co-operation among men."

That is true, that is the way of a society of individuals. Gotnothing to do with 'collective'. Why confuse the simple human process of one man paying another to lay some bricks at the foundation, and paying a carpenter and welder to build the building the he designed? There is nothing collective about it. I will buy a lot today, draw a design, and hire twelve buys to build a barn there iin 7 days. How do you apply the word collective to this? In all my years of projects or whathaveyou, the word collective has never crossed the lips anyone I have known. You been reading too many books. ...by questionable authors, prob 'group' type people. The people who, well, are collective?

@no1marauder said
Except for a societal system created by mutual consent and defended by the blood of and enriched by the toil of hundreds of millions of men and women, none of those would have accomplished much.

Yes, there has to be order and mutual agreements to live amongst each other with laws. Each person lives independently in the society......or some may want to be relegated to being dependent on others within that society. Brrrrrrrr

@shavixmir said
In my humble opinion, all eduction should be free at the point of delivery.
Just like healthcare, policing, water, electricity, fire brigade and infrastructure.

They're the basis for a working civilization. And yes, some people don't benefit from free education. But, some people don't benefit from free public transport or a free fire brigade either.
It's the investme ...[text shortened]... ss working hours, more vacation, etc.
And our women don't have fake breasts... that's another pre.

I somewhat agree with you here. However, taxes still have to cover these expenses. Which means we ALL end up paying for them.

@joe-beyser said
@KingDavid403
I didn't qualify for a loan thank god. I do think the Govt should give everyone $10,000 that didn't get a student loan just to keep things fair. Otherwise, they should pay off their debts.

I dont get why a person cant graduate, get job, restructure his debt, and pay it off monthly in a 10-year program. Maybe 15. I just do not get it. How can paying off someone's debt, which he voluntarily incurred, be more important than using $600B for people who really need it? Why don't you libs rave on anymore about helping people who really need it? These dependents do not 'need' to have this forgiveness of debt. Others, however, 'need' to survive. Sincerely, AvJoe.

@shavixmir said
In my humble opinion, all eduction should be free at the point of delivery.
Just like healthcare, policing, water, electricity, fire brigade and infrastructure.

They're the basis for a working civilization. And yes, some people don't benefit from free education. But, some people don't benefit from free public transport or a free fire brigade either.
It's the investme ...[text shortened]... ss working hours, more vacation, etc.
And our women don't have fake breasts... that's another pre.

A guy post. You said last year that the government should also provide free housing!!!! What a damn laugh. Having said that, how can you then utter the phrase 'working civilization '?? Why work if everything is free. You are joking........RIGHT?!??!?

Shav is telling us to prepare for less income. But Shav, what if I want more income? Had a new ChrisCaft speedboat in mind, and maybe a vacation to Iceland. No way huh....
Income control. hahahaha

-Removed-

A surprise for AvJoe. Did not realize that you are also a socialist.. Hard to keep up.

@kingdavid403 said
I somewhat agree with you here. However, taxes still have to cover these expenses. Which means we ALL end up paying for them.

But Shav said our income will be limited. So, no can do.

@averagejoe1 said
But Shav said our income will be limited. So, no can do.

But Shav said our income will be limited.
He did not say that anywhere. He said that our taxes would need to be raised to do so; which means we actually have less spendable income.
Canada has free healthcare as many other nations, their taxes are also higher; get the drift? Canadians are paying around six dollars a gallon for gas at present because of their extra taxes to cover healthcare. Their alcohol and cigarettes are also highly taxed to cover their free healthcare. get the drift?

@kingdavid403 said
But Shav said our income will be limited.
He did not say that anywhere. He said that our taxes would need to be raised to do so; which means we actually have less spendable income.
Canada has free healthcare as many other nations, their taxes are also higher; get the drift? Canadians are paying around six dollars a gallon for gas at present because of their e ...[text shortened]... Their alcohol and cigarettes are also highly taxed to cover their free healthcare. get the drift?

You describe a limited scenario while disputing it is limited?

@mott-the-hoople said
You describe a limited scenario while disputing it is limited?

You describe a limited scenario while disputing it is limited?
I'll bite, please explain your assertion?

@kingdavid403 said
You describe a limited scenario while disputing it is limited?
I'll bite, please explain your assertion?

son if I have to explain that you, you would still be too stupid to comprehend

@mott-the-hoople said
son if I have to explain that you, you would still be too stupid to comprehend

Hey, Trump boy, who's the stupid one?

@mott-the-hoople said
son if I have to explain that you, you would still be too stupid to comprehend

I'm fairly certain that I'm older than you loser; and I could still kick your worthless arse. It's your comment that is a stupid lie loser. Head on back to your momma tit boy.
btw, thanks for paying for my student debt relief. Please thank Trump and his worthless family also. If it wasn't for them, Biden most likely would have never been elected. LOL...