Originally posted by twhitehead I think the US laws about the flag are really stupid. But I would not be stupid enough to come to the US and start burning flags.
There are no laws about the flags. There are customs and etiquette, but they are unenforceable by law.
In the US, you have a constitutional right to burn the flag in public if you so choose.
Originally posted by sh76 Of course his sentence was insane and a violation of his rights. And I suppose the government should negotiate for his release. But what's he doing going to NK in the first place? And, sophomoric or not, trying to rip off a souvenir for the folks back home to gawk at was a monumentally stupid thing to do.
Well, anyway, I suppose he'll have learned his lesson even if they do bring him home.
Yeah...here's the CCTV video of him taking down the banner. I was surprised at how small it was, it looks like a crappy little cardboard banner.
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Originally posted by sh76 There are no laws about the flags. There are customs and etiquette, but they are unenforceable by law.
In the US, you have a constitutional right to burn the flag in public if you so choose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson
It is perhaps worth noting that a proposed Constitutional amendment to limit free speech and make flag desecration illegal was only barely defeated in the Senate.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra It is perhaps worth noting that a proposed Constitutional amendment to limit free speech and make flag desecration illegal was only barely defeated in the Senate.
Originally posted by KazetNagorra It is perhaps worth noting that a proposed Constitutional amendment to limit free speech and make flag desecration illegal was only barely defeated in the Senate.
First of all, defeated they were. Almost doesn't mean squat. Texas v. Johnson itself was a 5-4 decision, but it's held up as the law of the land for over 25 years.
Second of all, a constitutional amendments require ratification by 38 states... no easy task. The ERA was passed by the House and Senate and died in state legislatures.
Originally posted by sh76 There are no laws about the flags. There are customs and etiquette, but they are unenforceable by law.
In the US, you have a constitutional right to burn the flag in public if you so choose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson
I gave a link to what sure looked like a law.
This too looks like a law:
http://archive.flsenate.gov/Statutes/Index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0200-0299%2f0256%2fSections%2f0256.051.html
Originally posted by KazetNagorra It is perhaps worth noting that a proposed Constitutional amendment to limit free speech and make flag desecration illegal was only barely defeated in the Senate.
So you are saying that burning the flag is legal in the US.
Originally posted by twhitehead I gave a link to what sure looked like a law.
This too looks like a law:
http://archive.flsenate.gov/Statutes/Index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0200-0299%2f0256%2fSections%2f0256.051.html
Section 1 is about commercial usage, which is a different issue.
Section 2 is unconstitutional.
Neither section involved the flag of the United States.
Who cares what it's hypothetical worth on ebay might be it was a small cardboard poster that was headed for the trash bin in a month or two and probably cost a few cents to make in the worker's paradise.
God you suck.
Seriously you suck so much I can't stand it.
And you keep disregarding that a 21 year old is going to prison for 15 years at hard labor for something that cost the NK government a few pennies to make.
I cannot reiterate enough the level of suck that you are bathed in. You are sick. Nuts. Loony. Go get help you aren't right in the head.
18 Mar '16 14:28
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Sympathy for this guy in North Korea?
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