Here's how he got into the building:
9. The defendant was with the mob that approached the first floor of the US Capitol building on the Senate side. Other members of the crowd broke two windows and crawled inside the building at approximately 2:13 PM. Those rioters then broke open the door to the US Capitol building between the two broken windows, setting off a loud alarm. The defendant then entered through the broken door at approximately 2:14 PM. The defendant was one of the first 30 rioters inside the US Capitol building.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1430996/download
"A video of Chansley walking into the Capitol through the broken door is publicly available on the website of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia."
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-january-6-jacob-chansley-tucker-carlson-193191103193
Just click on "publicly available" in that AP article and the download shows the windows being smashed and the rioters entering through the broken door.
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@wajoma saidHe "meandered" to the Senate Chamber with the intent of stopping the certification of the Electoral College vote.
Of course he was aware of his actions, but he may have been unaware he was able to prove the amicable nature of his meanderings. You know the plea deal is an overused aberration of the US justice system, a tool to clear the ledger.
@no1marauder saidThat doesn't prove this:
Here's how he got into the building:
9. The defendant was with the mob that approached the first floor of the US Capitol building on the Senate side. Other members of the crowd broke two windows and crawled inside the building at approximately 2:13 PM. Those rioters then broke open the door to the US Capitol building between the two broken windows, setting off a lou ...[text shortened]... Capitol building.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1430996/download
"Considering his stated intent was to prevent elected officials from fulfilling their Constitutional duties, by kidnapping and violence if necessary, I'd say it was reasonably fair."
What would your price be to make the above statement, I'm sorry to admit facing the state and the 'their word against mine" scenario with the 20 CP he was in the vicinity of I'd probably fold at 41 months instead of 43 months. But with this video as proof of my amicable meanderings I might consider beating them down to a $500 fine and picking up trash for a month.
The question is: Was he aware that these vids were available in his defence?
If 'yes' then he's going to have to sleep in the bed he made.
If 'no' then an injustice has been done and it needs to be rectified.
@wajoma saidVery good, one of our better volleys , lads. I am a spectator.!
That doesn't prove this:
"Considering his stated intent was to prevent elected officials from fulfilling their Constitutional duties, by kidnapping and violence if necessary, I'd say it was reasonably fair."
What would your price be to make the above statement, I'm sorry to admit facing the state and the 'their word against mine" scenario with the 20 CP he was in ...[text shortened]... o sleep in the bed he made.
If 'no' then an injustice has been done and it needs to be rectified.
@no1marauder saidAm I supposed to say he never left? You are really are stupid.
Which door? Are you claiming the police didn't tell him to leave the building and that he didn't eventually do so?
He was arrested in AZ.
@no1marauder said"Other members of the crowd broke two windows and crawled inside the building at approximately 2:13 PM. Those rioters then broke open the door to the US Capitol building between the two broken windows, setting off a loud alarm"
Here's how he got into the building:
9. The defendant was with the mob that approached the first floor of the US Capitol building on the Senate side. Other members of the crowd broke two windows and crawled inside the building at approximately 2:13 PM. Those rioters then broke open the door to the US Capitol building between the two broken windows, [b]setting off a lou ...[text shortened]... e and the download shows the windows being smashed and the rioters entering through the broken door.
Other members means not Joshua. Why was he charged with violent entry when he did not break in at all? "Other members" broke in. Not Joshua. He was railroaded.
@metal-brain saidObviously you didn't look at the linked video. He entered a broken door right next to two windows that had been broken a minute before by the mob he was part of.
"Other members of the crowd broke two windows and crawled inside the building at approximately 2:13 PM. Those rioters then broke open the door to the US Capitol building between the two broken windows, setting off a loud alarm"
Other members means not Joshua. Why was he charged with violent entry when he did not break in at all? "Other members" broke in. Not Joshua. He was railroaded.
He was clearly guilty of the crime he pled to.
@no1marauder saidI saw him enter with a crowd of other people. He entered. That is not disputed.
Obviously you didn't look at the linked video. He entered a broken door right next to two windows that had been broken a minute before by the mob he was part of.
He was clearly guilty of the crime he pled to.
There is no evidence that he broke in that I saw.
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@wajoma saidNot sure why you think his behavior when he didn't have his mob to back him up is so exemplary that it negates the fact that he and the others did, in fact, obstruct the counting of the Electoral College vote - the very crime he pled guilty to.
That doesn't prove this:
"Considering his stated intent was to prevent elected officials from fulfilling their Constitutional duties, by kidnapping and violence if necessary, I'd say it was reasonably fair."
What would your price be to make the above statement, I'm sorry to admit facing the state and the 'their word against mine" scenario with the 20 CP he was in ...[text shortened]... o sleep in the bed he made.
If 'no' then an injustice has been done and it needs to be rectified.
BTW, does referring to the Vice President as a "f***ing traitor" and then minutes later leaving a note at his position to oversee the EC count that read " “It’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.” suggest to you someone who just "meandered" around the Capitol?
@metal-brain saidHe pled guilty to Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, not breaking and entering, so that doesn't even matter. He clearly knew he wasn't supposed to enter the building and entered for an illegal purpose.
I saw him enter with a crowd of other people. He entered. That is not disputed.
There is no evidence that he broke in that I saw.
So how was he "railroaded"?
@no1marauder saidBecause he got 4 years for a non violent offense. He didn't even vandalize anything like Ray Epps did, yet Ray Epps got off scot free. Liz Cheney lied. She should be censured for it.
He pled guilty to Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, not breaking and entering, so that doesn't even matter. He clearly knew he wasn't supposed to enter the building and entered for an illegal purpose.
So how was he "railroaded"?
@metal-brain saidThe crime he pled guilty to can get you 20 years in prison.
Because he got 4 years for a non violent offense. He didn't even vandalize anything like Ray Epps did, yet Ray Epps got off scot free. Liz Cheney lied. She should be censured for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPg9N_HiLMg
Again, he could have taken his chances at trial if he didn't like the offer.
@metal-brain saidHe probably thought no one would notice him. The horns were camo.
Because he got 4 years for a non violent offense. He didn't even vandalize anything like Ray Epps did, yet Ray Epps got off scot free. Liz Cheney lied. She should be censured for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPg9N_HiLMg
There was no plan.
@metal-brain saidHe did admit that he and others "pushed past the police line at the top of the scaffolding and entered the Upper West Terrace of the US Capitol building at approximately 2:10 PM." https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1430996/download
I saw him enter with a crowd of other people. He entered. That is not disputed.
There is no evidence that he broke in that I saw.
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Four minutes later, he was in the building through a broken door.