"The one good thing to come out of Brexit: a bonfire of national illusions"

@moonbus said
No, you haven't. If you still want to sell your goods and services to EU countries, you have to abide by THEIR rules and safety/environmental/transport regulations. The target country's rules apply, not the supplier's. The big difference is that, before, you had a vote in what those rules would be, and now you don't.

Err, yes we have.

Seeking to comply with EU regs on goods is our choice in order to trade. Same way we will comply with Japan’s regs in order to trade. Japan has some of the toughest clinical regs for medical devices in the world and everyone complies. It’s a choice.

We are no longer part of the EU but we still want to trade. I think you pretending not to be able to differentiate that obvious nuance is almost as silly as duchess64 comparing a waitress earning tips to a freelance writer writing sob-stories to the guardian.

@divegeester said
Err, yes we have.

Seeking to comply with EU regs on goods is our choice in order to trade. Same way we will comply with Japan’s regs in order to trade. Japan has some of the toughest clinical regs for medical devices in the world and everyone complies. It’s a choice.

We are no longer part of the EU but we still want to trade. I think you pretending not to be able ...[text shortened]... chess64 comparing a waitress earning tips to a freelance writer writing sob-stories to the guardian.

You always had a choice when you part of the EU, and previous PMs negotiated numerous op-outs to specific regulations which applied to the rest of the EU members.

@moonbus said
You always had a choice when you part of the EU, and previous PMs negotiated numerous op-outs to specific regulations which applied to the rest of the EU members.

Well you’ve convinced me it was all a waste of time. If only you had explained this before.

@moonbus said
You always had a choice when you part of the EU

What choice was that?

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It was paid for by the Guardian’s finances
It was signed of by the Guardian’s political editor
It was published under the Guardian’s political brand

It’s Guardian Remainer tear soup

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Just be grateful that I’m reeling you in gently, seeing as how you are gut-hooked on this.

@divegeester said
Err, yes we have.

Seeking to comply with EU regs on goods is our choice in order to trade. Same way we will comply with Japan’s regs in order to trade. Japan has some of the toughest clinical regs for medical devices in the world and everyone complies. It’s a choice.

We are no longer part of the EU but we still want to trade. I think you pretending not to be able ...[text shortened]... chess64 comparing a waitress earning tips to a freelance writer writing sob-stories to the guardian.

You still haven’t grasped it.

The UK is bound, by this deal, to EU labour laws, health and safety requirements, quality controls, etc.

Not only for goods being traded with the EU.
The UK cannot undermine EU wages, etc.

If they do so, the EU has the right to compensation.

So, no matter which trade deals the UK wants in the future, no matter what they want, they’re going to have to stick to the EU’s level playing field.

@divegeester said
Well you’ve convinced me it was all a waste of time. If only you had explained this before.

We did.
We also explained that the UK is sovereign over its own borders in the EU (hence passport controls and everything).

This was all explained to you many times.
And yet you think you’ve won sovereignty. Yet you think you have broken free from imaginary shackles.

All you’ve done is created a bureacratic nightmare for yourselves.

And most of you are too thick to even comprehend the deal you’ve just signed.

@divegeester said
Just be grateful that I’m reeling you in gently, seeing as how you are gut-hooked on this.

Dude. You are seriously reeling in nothing but a trade deal which gives you something you already had and nothing what brexiteers thought they wanted.

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I didn’t claim that at all.

I think you’re just upset. As usual.

@shavixmir said
Dude. You are seriously reeling in nothing but a trade deal which gives you something you already had and nothing what brexiteers thought they wanted.

Most Brexiters wanted a post Brexit trade deal, I certainly did.

We got one.

Is this going to be the loser’s riff now;

You got Brexit, as predicted
You got a trade deal with the EU, as predicted
It’s going smoothly at the ports so far, already, as predicted
You’re not starving, as we hoped you would be

But damn, it’s still crap and and and ....