"The one good thing to come out of Brexit: a bonfire of national illusions"

@biffo-konker said
The UK will continue to blame the EU for any problems after Brexit. They have started already when they realised UK musicians would require work permits to tour in the EU.

'The government says it tried to secure better conditions for UK touring musicians during the Brexit negotiations, but its proposals were rejected by the EU.'
BBC news.
That is a lie because the m ...[text shortened]... the incompetent UK government that was hand picked according to how strong their brexit views were.

@kevcvs57 said
Well if we have citizens who are going to give a toss about some over paid and privileged musicians having to fill in some extra paperwork then we are probably doomed to an endless vortex of self pitying tears whatever the EU does.
The sooner the UK govt is honest about how generous and backward bending the EU has been the better, but musicians are even more of an irrelevance than fishermen IMO.

@biffo-konker said
I agree with all that. The point was that the UK government is already - after 2 days - blaming the EU for any the shortcomings of the brexit deal.

@shavixmir said
There is no solace to be found in my interpretation.
I’m just stating facts.

The next step will be: who will the brexiteers turn on when their envisioned future turns out to be a popped bubble?

But that, my friend, is for a future thread some 6 to 12 months down the road.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Is that the same thread where we will be discussing new trade deals and other EU countries wanting to follow our lead?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Is that the same thread where we will be discussing new trade deals and other EU countries wanting to follow our lead?

@biffo-konker said
Like the one the UK just signed with Turkey?

Or the Japanese trade deal. A real cracker, that one.

Although the level playing field they signed in that one made the brexit level playing field far easier to swallow.

Dear oh dear. Well, at least if the masses go starving (due to austerity measures, not due to Brexit... don’t forget that it’s the tories that have brought it all on the last 12 years) Johnsson can say: “Let them drink Soya!”

@shavixmir said
Or the Japanese trade deal. A real cracker, that one.

Although the level playing field they signed in that one made the brexit level playing field far easier to swallow.

Dear oh dear. Well, at least if the masses go starving (due to austerity measures, not due to Brexit... don’t forget that it’s the tories that have brought it all on the last 12 years) Johnsson can say: “Let them drink Soya!”

@biffo-konker said
The UK’s new trade agreement with Turkey, signed last week, ignores the Turkish government’s continuing human rights abuses, boosts its dangerous president, and undermines ministerial pledges that “global Britain” will uphold international laws and values.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/03/global-britain-is-willing-to-trade-away-everything-including-scruples

-Removed-

@moonbus said
You always had a choice when you part of the EU, and previous PMs negotiated numerous op-outs to specific regulations which applied to the rest of the EU members.

@biffo-konker said
The UK will continue to blame the EU for any problems after Brexit. They have started already when they realised UK musicians would require work permits to tour in the EU.

@biffo-konker said
And now no fish. What a debacle.

'An MP has called on the prime minister to secure fishing rights for a UK super trawler which has been unable to operate since December.

The Kirkella freezer trawler, based in Hull, catches cod and haddock in sub-Arctic waters, but Brexit has left it without a fishing agreement.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-humber-55621259

Wasn't fishing supposed to be one of the really big brexit plus points?