@Metal-Brain saidDo you bore yourself?
There was no nuclear threat. Our own intelligence said they were eat least 9 years from getting a nuclear weapon. Not to mention your supreme liar in chief said Iran's nuke program was obliterated. What nuclear program? LOL!
Iran is ridiculing Trump for saying he won the war. They are all laughing at him.
And it is his own fault for lying so much about nearly everyth ...[text shortened]... for defending obvious lies and now eveyrone here knows what a chump you are for believing his lies.
@Pianoman1 said“Winston dialled ‘back numbers’ on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of ‘The Times’, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes’ delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, as the official phrase had it, to rectify. For example, it appeared from ‘The Times’ of the seventeenth of March that Big Brother, in his speech of the previous day, had predicted that the South Indian front would remain quiet but that a Eurasian offensive would shortly be launched in North Africa. As it happened, the Eurasian Higher Command had launched its offensive in South India and left North Africa alone. It was therefore necessary to rewrite a paragraph of Big Brother’s speech, in such a way as to make him predict the thing that had actually happened.”
“There is something almost impressive about the speed with which Donald Trump can turn swagger into panic while insisting, at full volume, that nothing is wrong. One minute he is chest-thumping about total victory, claiming the war is effectively over, implying that Iran has been flattened, that the United States has everything under control, that nobody else’s help is need ...[text shortened]... the war he already won now requires an international rescue mission.”
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@AverageJoe1 saidDoes it look like the war is over?
Do you bore yourself?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/irans-longest-range-missile-strike-fails-diego-garcia-natanz-nuclear-facility-bombed
So what was the brilliant purpose of Trump lying about winning the war? Was he hoping the Iranians would die laughing?
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@Metal-Brain saidWar not over, next 48 hours w b interesting. You make jabs at Trump, war’s are not perfect a imperfect science .
Does it look like the war is over?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/irans-longest-range-missile-strike-fails-diego-garcia-natanz-nuclear-facility-bombed
So what was the brilliant purpose of Trump lying about winning the war? Was he hoping the Iranians would die laughing?
So I failed to see where your comments are coming from. Did you expect him to nail a certain date of completion, or more to the point, do you expect me to know his purposes with his military strategies? Who in the world would know that? You’re kidding, right?
Silly guy. Oh, did you ever tell us if you are in favor of whipping Iran into submission like we are? You libs never make direct statements have you noticed?
@AverageJoe1 saidTrump cannot open the straits and he is frustrated. Now he has to send ground troops in, probably to try and take Kharg island. You know, the one he said he might bomb again "just for fun". Oh..that will make the Iranians lose their will to fight. LOL!
War not over, next 48 hours w b interesting. You make jabs at Trump, war’s are not perfect a imperfect science .
So I failed to see where your comments are coming from. Did you expect him to nail a certain date of completion, or more to the point, do you expect me to know his purposes with his military strategies? Who in the world would know that? You’re kidding, r ...[text shortened]... whipping Iran into submission like we are? You libs never make direct statements have you noticed?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jxzlwvd8ro
Rubio was probably slapping himself in the forehead saying to him "we say that in private, you were not supposed to say it in public". Who needs propaganda to inspire their people to fight hard when they have the truth?
But I guess the best puppets are flawed people.
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@Metal-Brain saidTrump has no filter…right?🤔
Trump cannot open the straits and he is frustrated. Now he has to send ground troops in, probably to try and take Kharg island. You know, the one he said he might bomb again "just for fun". Oh..that will make the Iranians lose their will to fight. LOL!
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jxzlwvd8ro
Rubio was probably slapping himself in the forehead saying to him "w ...[text shortened]... eir people to fight hard when they have the truth?
But I guess the best puppets are flawed people.
@Metal-Brain saidMB posts what Trump is involved in (Strait) (saw it on the news) and MB reports that Trump is frustrated. Of course he is, and that has been discussed a lot on all networks, like Churchill was frustrated. A normal reaction. but thanks.
Trump cannot open the straits and he is frustrated. Now he has to send ground troops in, probably to try and take Kharg island. You know, the one he said he might bomb again "just for fun". Oh..that will make the Iranians lose their will to fight. LOL!
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jxzlwvd8ro
Rubio was probably slapping himself in the forehead saying to him "w ...[text shortened]... eir people to fight hard when they have the truth?
But I guess the best puppets are flawed people.
Then he tells us what Trump has to do, ground troops. Strategy from our armchair expert. Yes, Trump, with his advisors will make the best decision. It could be that. You seemed to be well-versed on Kharg Island, and what his intentions are, and we appreciate your report. And your opinion that the Iranians will fight on.
News is also that Iranians have 48 hours, or he will lay waste to power stations, starting with the biggest one. Not the nuclear one (they have nuclear?!?!?!?), which serves hospitals, etc.
War is hell. Better now than 5 years from now, with Kamala or a gay vegan president, don't you think? 6 Previous Presidents talked about shutting iran down,,,,,,,,took a real man to do it, .....don't you think???
What DO you fellers think?
@AverageJoe1 saidLOL!!!!!!!
MB posts what Trump is involved in (Strait) (saw it on the news) and MB reports that Trump is frustrated. Of course he is, and that has been discussed a lot on all networks, like Churchill was frustrated. A normal reaction. but thanks.
Then he tells us what Trump has to do, ground troops. Strategy from our armchair expert. Yes, Trump, with his advisors will make ...[text shortened]... iran down,,,,,,,,took a real man to do it, .....don't you think???
What DO you fellers think?
That is a desperate response. Keep embarrassing yourself.
@Metal-Brain saidbut what do you think
LOL!!!!!!!
That is a desperate response. Keep embarrassing yourself.
It's not about myself
@AverageJoe1 saidI think his 48 hour ultimatum is just going to result in a war on power plants which will not accomplish anything but making people unhappy. And the nations that host US military bases will sorely regret hosting those bases.
but what do you think
It's not about myself
I don't think Trump knows what he is doing. He is making threats that will only escalate the war and it will backfire on him. Qatar has a lot to lose. Iran is probably getting really good anti aircraft missiles from Russia and or China. They shot down an F-35 stealth jet. They hit the jackpot and can now reverse engineer it. And now Trump knows they might shoot down more of them.
Russia is putting the hurt on Trump through Iran. They can fight the US military through Iran and so can China. Double the trouble. Can you say quagmire? Trump's frustration has just started. Russia does not have to confine attacks on Ukraine only anymore and can inflict damage on the US military by proxy. And this war has a lot to do with China and denying them oil. You can bet they are helping Iran fight the US as well.
@Metal-Brain saidYou make good points, especially that Russia could make such a move. Donald's hold on who-gets-what- oil may be his best card in the deck.
I think his 48 hour ultimatum is just going to result in a war on power plants which will not accomplish anything but making people unhappy. And the nations that host US military bases will sorely regret hosting those bases.
I don't think Trump knows what he is doing. He is making threats that will only escalate the war and it will backfire on him. Qatar has a lot to ...[text shortened]... a lot to do with China and denying them oil. You can bet they are helping Iran fight the US as well.
No matter what we predict, the chain of events will toss and turn is my thinking.
I cant imagine his bombing power plants after 48 hours.....overloading the suffering of the citizens.
Very difficult decisions. He has given them all the time in the world to relent.......but, like Trump says, there is no one there to talk to. well, duh
@AverageJoe1 saidDonald has no control of the oil. He doesn't have the cards. That is why he is making demands any sane person knows Iran will ignore. And his threats will just escalate the war and blow up in his face if he follows through. We all know oil prices would go up sharply which is exactly what he does not want.
You make good points, especially that Russia could make such a move. Donald's hold on who-gets-what- oil may be his best card in the deck.
No matter what we predict, the chain of events will toss and turn is my thinking.
I cant imagine his bombing power plants after 48 hours.....overloading the suffering of the citizens.
Very difficult decisions. He has given them a ...[text shortened]... ime in the world to relent.......but, like Trump says, there is no one there to talk to. well, duh
Trump has only 2 choices. He can end the bombing in hopes of ending the war or he can send in ground troops and order a lot of body bags. His reckless comments are insuring the Iranians will fight hard. All those earlier calls for the Iranian people to rise up and fight the regime have been rendered meaningless. They know he likes to bomb them "just for fun". Lindsay Graham had to act like he cared about the Iranian people for nothing. All because of a bombing "just for fun" comment. Pretty dumb, huh?
@Metal-Brain saidHis threats and his demands are all part of a game idiot. Do you play chess? If you do this, then I might do that. If he tells Iran, he’s gonna bomb hell out of their power plants, he might not mean it one bit, he knows that they will relent. You all hate Trump so much that you see no positive outcomes in anything that he does. Average Joe is here to tell you there will be plenty of positive outcomes with Trump. Sun house is actually implied that the stock market has maxed out. I think it will probably hit 60,000 in two or three years. I am positive. Your boys are negative, and Donald Trump is a positive man. Not much of a puzzle .
Donald has no control of the oil. He doesn't have the cards. That is why he is making demands any sane person knows Iran will ignore. And his threats will just escalate the war and blow up in his face if he follows through. We all know oil prices would go up sharply which is exactly what he does not want.
Trump has only 2 choices. He can end the bombing in hopes of en ...[text shortened]... t the Iranian people for nothing. All because of a bombing "just for fun" comment. Pretty dumb, huh?