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    @no1marauder said
    RT news says so anyway.

    Anyone who actually reads the Court's Order (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6185644/Sealed-Order.pdf) knows the claims in the article are false; the Court hardly denied that there was a Russian government attempt to influence the election in Trump's favor - it merely ruled that prosecutors shouldn't have made certain public statement ...[text shortened]... particular defendants. It did not dismiss the case because of this or even sanction the prosecutors.
    Lazare pointed out:

    “Americans assume that Russians and Russia are the same thing. But they’re not, any more than an individual American and the Trump administration are the same thing,” he told RT.

    Aaron Mate is an outstanding journalist who rarely gets facts wrong. I stand by his assertions in the article I posted. Mueller's implied link between IRA & Russian gov't was false.
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    @metal-brain said
    Lazare pointed out:

    “Americans assume that Russians and Russia are the same thing. But they’re not, any more than an individual American and the Trump administration are the same thing,” he told RT.

    Aaron Mate is an outstanding journalist who rarely gets facts wrong. I stand by his assertions in the article I posted. Mueller's implied link between IRA & Russian gov't was false.
    Aaron Mate either can't read or is a purveyor of falsehoods IF he thinks that Judge's Order in any way supports the claims he makes in the article.
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    @metal-brain said
    Yes it has, in about every way possible.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/07/no_author/another-nail-in-russiagate-coffin/
    No. It hasn't.

    If you're going to make false assertions, I want the sideshow with it.

    Stomp your feet and hold your breath 'til you turn blue.
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    @no1marauder said
    Aaron Mate either can't read or is a purveyor of falsehoods IF he thinks that Judge's Order in any way supports the claims he makes in the article.
    Mueller claims that the IRA -- a Russian troll farm -- was the 2nd of "two principal interference operations" by Russian gov't. But as judge notes, Mueller's implied link between IRA & Russian gov't was false.

    It is in the report that link provided and you posted subsequently. You can't read.
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    The Irish Republican Army is a Russian troll farm?

    Do you mean those ugly Scandanavian dolls?
    And why aren’t they produced regularly? Do you think they grow in the ground like Uruk Hai?

    What the hell’s wrong with your meds today?
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    @metal-brain said
    Mueller claims that the IRA -- a Russian troll farm -- was the 2nd of "two principal interference operations" by Russian gov't. But as judge notes, Mueller's implied link between IRA & Russian gov't was false.

    It is in the report that link provided and you posted subsequently. You can't read.
    That's not at all what the Judge's Order, which you obviously didn't read, says.
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    @no1marauder said
    That's not at all what the Judge's Order, which you obviously didn't read, says.
    You didn't read it. Read page 6 and 7

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6185644/Sealed-Order.pdf
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    @metal-brain said
    You didn't read it. Read page 6 and 7

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6185644/Sealed-Order.pdf
    I read it. It doesn't say what you claim. The Judge is complaining about prosecutors "expressing an extrajudicial opinion about a case" in violation of Rule 57.7. Nowhere, literally nowhere, does he even suggest that anything in Mueller's report isn't accurate.

    You should stop getting your legal analysis from Russian propaganda outlets like RT.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    Just a note of caution - history is a moving target. What Rhodes wrote in 1877 when he was 24, can't automatically be attributed to the 40 year old Rhodes of the 1890s.
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    @no1marauder said
    I read it. It doesn't say what you claim. The Judge is complaining about prosecutors "expressing an extrajudicial opinion about a case" in violation of Rule 57.7. Nowhere, literally nowhere, does he even suggest that anything in Mueller's report isn't accurate.

    You should stop getting your legal analysis from Russian propaganda outlets like RT.
    You are full of it. It says Mueller didn't make a connection with the Russian government. That is what is inaccurate. DUH!

    You are in deep denial of the obvious.
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    @no1marauder said
    I'm certainly not going to waste almost two hours on a video from a crank.

    For those interested in Corbett's "credentials" see: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_Corbett
    Basically, he rants about every popular conspiracy, often on Russian propaganda sites.

    Unsurprisingly, he has no formal training in history, economics or anything besides English and Anglo-Irish literature. https://wikispooks.com/wiki/James_Corbett
    I had a look at rationalwiki, their entry on YouTube is quite entertaining, having this sentence:
    As it is generally free of pornography, YouTube is technically not really part of the Internet.[citation NOT needed]

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YouTube
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    @metal-brain said
    You are full of it. It says Mueller didn't make a connection with the Russian government. That is what is inaccurate. DUH!

    You are in deep denial of the obvious.
    You're functionally illiterate and/or completely brainwashed to believe such obvious nonsense.

    The Mueller Report is replete with evidence showing the involvement of the Russian government in the scheme to help get Trump elected and no judge would claim otherwise.
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    @shavixmir said
    The Irish Republican Army is a Russian troll farm?

    Do you mean those ugly Scandanavian dolls?
    And why aren’t they produced regularly? Do you think they grow in the ground like Uruk Hai?

    What the hell’s wrong with your meds today?
    No he means the internet troll farm located in St Petersburg and definitely run by the Kremlin.
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    @no1marauder said
    You're functionally illiterate and/or completely brainwashed to believe such obvious nonsense.

    The Mueller Report is replete with evidence showing the involvement of the Russian government in the scheme to help get Trump elected and no judge would claim otherwise.
    That is your psychological projection. You clearly did not read the report. Here is an excerpt:

    "The Special Counsel Report describes efforts by the Russian government to interfere with
    the 2016 presidential election. See Special Counsel Report 36–65; see also Indictment, United
    States v. Netyksho, No. 18-cr-215 (D.D.C. July 13, 2018), Dkt. 1 (indictment against multiple
    Russian intelligence officers based on the alleged hacking and leaking of private documents
    belonging to Democratic officials). But the indictment, which alleges that private Russian
    entities and individuals conducted an “information warfare” campaign designed to sow discord
    among U.S. voters, Indictment ¶ 10, does not link the defendants to the Russian government. "

    What part of " does not link the defendants to the Russian government" do you not understand? Take off your blue tinted glasses so you can read that you are wrong. Now everyone here can see it but you.

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6185644/Sealed-Order.pdf
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