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@vivify said
6 of 9 SCOTUS judges are conservative with half of those conservatives appointed by Trump. I can't see anything stopping a 3rd term.
Personally I would welcome that. I think Im in good company along with
- 15,000,000 Jews
- 10,000,000 Venezuelans,
- 60,000,000 Iranians,
- millions of Nigerian Christians
- 800,000 Guyanese
- about a billion Hindus
- about 80,000,000 Americans.
The world needs a US president like Trump. Many of the previous ones were just lame bigmouth failures.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
“SCOTUS also ruled the president has "absolute immunity" for all acts committed while president,”

A total lie…the court made no such ruling

It must be painful being a liberal…lies are your life
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity
from criminal prosecution".


@Suzianne said
Even worse, they allowed him to run again after the Insurrection, despite the clear and unambiguous language of the 14th Amendment.
"Let's give a convicted felon who tried to overturn the government full immunity from prosecution."----SCOTUS


@Suzianne said
Nothing except the US Constitution.

22nd Amendment

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Art ...[text shortened]... ative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Yes. But if Trump chooses to run again that will be challenged in the Supreme Court. Should the Court choose, there's nothing stopping them from allowing it.

True, they might not rule in favor of a 3rd term...but this is the same court that overturned abortion federal abortion rights; and one Justice openly invited gay marriage to be overturned in the opinion for that same ruling. So it's hard to have faith they'd do the right thing.


@vivify said
Yes. But if Trump chooses to run again that will be challenged in the Supreme Court. Should the Court choose, there's nothing stopping them from allowing it.

True, they might not rule in favor of a 3rd term...but this is the same court that overturned abortion federal abortion rights; and one Justice openly invited gay marriage to be overturned in the opinion for that same ruling. So it's hard to have faith they'd do the right thing.
It is the right thing to have abortion and homosexual marriage illegal.


Was two, too many?🤔


@vivify said
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity
from criminal prosecution".
you left part of it out...

the Court con-
cludes that the separation of powers principles explicated in the
Court’s precedent necessitate at least a presumptive immunity from
criminal prosecution for a President’s acts within the outer perimeter
of his official responsibility.


you dont understand the meaning of "absolute"

oR YOU HAVE TO LIE ABOUT IT TO MAKE YOUR CLAIM


@Mott-The-Hoople said
you left part of it out...

the Court con-
cludes that the separation of powers principles explicated in the
Court’s precedent necessitate at least a presumptive immunity from
criminal prosecution for a President’s acts within the outer perimeter
of his official responsibility.


you dont understand the meaning of "absolute"

oR YOU HAVE TO LIE ABOUT IT TO MAKE YOUR CLAIM
What point do you think you're making?

SCOTUS refused to define what that includes, leaving it open to broad interpretation. Does this mean the president can use his power order a hit on political opponents? How about to commit election interference?

They also refused to define what constitutes "official" vs "unofficial" presidential acts. In fact, Trump's lawyer said in court that he cannot be prosecuted for assassinating political opponents.

So again: what's your point?


@Mott-The-Hoople said
“Even worse, they allowed him to run again after the Insurrection”

A lie, who was charged with “insurrection”?
Not him, unfortunately.

That doesn't mean he didn't do it. He did. We all saw it on television. He was the ringleader, just like he is today. The Insurrection Clause is in the 14th Amendment for a reason. Insurrectionists are guilty of treason, and you cannot have a traitorous president.


@vivify said
"Let's give a convicted felon who tried to overturn the government full immunity from prosecution."----SCOTUS
The point is that they annulled part of the 14th Amendment.

They should be removed just for that.

It was another traitorous act, which should rise above their endless employment status. I wonder if a Supreme Court Justice can be impeached for treason or removed if they are disbarred by their home state.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
“Even worse, they allowed him to run again after the Insurrection”

A lie, who was charged with “insurrection”?
Nowhere in the 14th Amendment is being charged with or being convicted of insurrection part of the amendment. The president only has to have "engaged in Insurrection". We know he was, we all saw it that day. He told his supporters to go to the Capitol and stop them from fulfilling their duty that day. Yes, he/they were unsuccessful, but at the end of the day, he had still "engaged in Insurrection".

The Amendment means what it says. Stop trying to de-fang our Constitution.


@Rajk999 said
Added to that is that the constitution can be changed. Its not an easy process but it is doable.
The 22nd Amendment has not been changed since it was ratified.

Neither has the 14th Amendment.


@Rajk999 said
Personally I would welcome that. I think Im in good company along with
- 15,000,000 Jews
- 10,000,000 Venezuelans,
- 60,000,000 Iranians,
- millions of Nigerian Christians
- 800,000 Guyanese
- about a billion Hindus
- about 80,000,000 Americans.
The world needs a US president like Trump. Many of the previous ones were just lame bigmouth failures.
Of course you would welcome the US changing their Constitution.

Those in government take an oath to defend and protect the Constitution.

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same: that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic. You are an enemy of the Constitution. Unfortunately, so is the president and his entire administration. He is nothing but a lame, bigmouth failure. The lamest.


@vivify said
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

"Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity
from criminal prosecution".
Perhaps in the future, SC Justices will be held to account for their treason.

It cannot come soon enough.


@vivify said
Yes. But if Trump chooses to run again that will be challenged in the Supreme Court. Should the Court choose, there's nothing stopping them from allowing it.

True, they might not rule in favor of a 3rd term...but this is the same court that overturned abortion federal abortion rights; and one Justice openly invited gay marriage to be overturned in the opinion for that same ruling. So it's hard to have faith they'd do the right thing.
They are traitors to the very idea of a "more perfect Union".