@AverageJoe1 saidThe President is sworn to protect the Constitution. The People can protect themselves; we're not children relying on an all-powerful and all-knowing Fuhrer like you seem to think.
We all are. I have seen nothing but approval of the bombing with regard to its being in compliance with the constitution. I agree with them, and I wrote a thread which briefly discounts WPowers Act, as not applicable as a Democrat tool to override the Constitution for god sake.
Look at marauder, he wants to tie the hands of a president who is sworn to protect the cit ...[text shortened]... t takes to protect the citizens. It just happens that he did so under the rules of the constitution.
The President was given limited powers so he could never abuse his role and rule like a king. The Framers lacked your belief in one man rule.
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@no1marauder saidBeset by Sonhouse Syndrome.
The President is sworn to protect the Constitution. The People can protect themselves; we're not children relying on an all-powerful and all-knowing Fuhrer like you seem to think.
The President was given limited powers so he could never abuse his role and rule like a king. The Framers lacked your belief in one man rule.
So, the question…. The constitution and the law, etc., notwithstanding, do you think that we should have executed that perfect 100% eradication of nuclear development inside of a country that is the worst terrorist country in the world, who has sworn to kill America?. I’m not mentioning Trump or other countries or Israel. Certainly you can answer that and still save face?
Or the meandering can just continue….he said she said I said you said, whatever …..
The people who were there had 60 days to have gotten out, so not to be funny, but they committed suicide. You can glom onto murder, like Shav does, but still, irrelevant.
Certainly by now everyone knows what they are dealing with with Donald Trump. He always does what he says he is gonna do. He does not bluff. And for the record, he prepares people to think twice about what they do, in making preparations for about what he is going to do.
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@AverageJoe1 saidI don't think Iran is "the worst terrorist country in the world".
Beset by Sonhouse Syndrome.
So, the question…. The constitution and the law, etc., notwithstanding, do you think that we should have executed that perfect 100% eradication of nuclear development inside of a country that is the worst terrorist country in the world, who has sworn to kill America?. I’m not mentioning Trump or other countries or Israel. Certainly you can a ...[text shortened]... save face?
Or the meandering can just continue….he said she said I said you said, whatever …..
I don't think it's "sworn to kill America".
I've yet to see much evidence their nuclear program was moving to developing nuclear weapons.
So I don't accept any of the premises of your loaded question.
Gawd, more of your sickening ass kissing. It's really revolting how you can drop to your knees before such a pathetic con man.
@no1marauder saidname one worse...which others have declared death to America?..oh wait...you libs want America to fail dont you?
I don't think Iran is "the worst terrorist country in the world".
I don't think it's "sworn to kill America".
I've yet to see much evidence their nuclear program was moving to developing nuclear weapons.
So I don't accept any of the premises of your loaded question.
Gawd, more of your sickening ass kissing. It's really revolting how you can drop to your knees before such a pathetic con man.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidIn sheer number of victims, probably the US, maybe Israel.
name one worse...which others have declared death to America?..oh wait...you libs want America to fail dont you?
When was the last time the government of Iran actually killed an American?
@no1marauder saidIn case you are too lazy to Google it, here it is ..
In sheer number of victims, probably the US, maybe Israel.
When was the last time the government of Iran actually killed an American?
List of Iran's atrocities and terrorist activities
State-Sponsored Terrorism and Proxy Warfare
- Iran has been officially designated a State Sponsor of Terrorism by the U.S. since 1984, due to its extensive support for terrorist organizations and proxy groups.
- Iran provides financial, logistical, and military backing to groups such as Hezbollah (Lebanon), Hamas (Gaza), and the Houthis (Yemen), as well as various militias in Iraq and Syria.
- Iranian-backed groups have carried out bombings, kidnappings, and attacks against U.S. and allied targets, including:
The 1983 bombing of the U.S. Embassy and Marine barracks in Beirut, killing hundreds of Americans and others.
The 1984 kidnapping and murder of CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut.
Support for attacks on U.S. soldiers in Iraq and against U.S. allies in Syria.
Attacks Against Americans (Selected Incidents)
- 1979–1981Iranian students, with Tehran’s backing, took 66 Americans hostage at the U.S. Embassy.
- April 1983Suicide bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut (17 Americans killed), by Iran-backed Islamic Jihad.
- October 1983Bombing of Marine compound in Beirut (241 U.S. service members killed), by Iran-backed Hezbollah.
- March 1984Kidnapping and murder of CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut.
Human Rights Abuses and Domestic Atrocities
- Systematic repression of protests, including the “Woman, Life, Freedom” movement (2022–present),
- widespread use of force, arbitrary detentions, torture, and executions.
- Routine use of torture, enforced disappearances, unfair trials, and cruel punishments such as flogging, amputation, and stoning.
- Discrimination and violence against women, girls, ethnic and religious minorities (notably the Baha’i), and LGBTI people.
- Arbitrary use of the death penalty, disproportionately affecting minorities and migrants.
- Systemic impunity for crimes against humanity, including the 1988 prison massacres.
- Suppression of free expression, association, and peaceful assembly; intimidation and prosecution of human rights defenders, journalists, and lawyers.
- Expansion of digital surveillance and repression beyond Iran’s borders to silence critics abroad.
International Destabilization and Arms Transfers
- Iran has supplied drones and ballistic missiles to Russia, which have been used against civilian infrastructure in Ukraine.
- Provided military support to the Assad regime in Syria, contributing to the prolongation and brutality of the Syrian civil war.
- Direct missile and drone attacks on Israel, and ongoing support for Palestinian armed groups.
@Rajk999 saidSo the answer to my question is: Never?
In case you are too lazy to Google it, here it is ..
List of Iran's atrocities and terrorist activities
State-Sponsored Terrorism and Proxy Warfare
- Iran has been officially designated a State Sponsor of Terrorism by the U.S. since 1984, due to its extensive support for terrorist organizations and proxy groups.
- Iran provides financial, logistical, and military backin ...[text shortened]... r.
- Direct missile and drone attacks on Israel, and ongoing support for Palestinian armed groups.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidMOTT. I am having a prob w this person, I wonder really what/where it is from. We bein’ duped? I fear we are. Never declared kill America?
name one worse...which others have declared death to America?..oh wait...you libs want America to fail dont you?
It’s all yours, I read not past that sentence, nor will I any more that might follow.
I have an appropriate adage, but will leave it hanging. Whatever we say goes to abyss anyway.
Cheers.
@Rajk999 saidI'm well aware that Iran aids resistance movements against Israeli and US occupation forces.
If you cannot read ... yes.
What I'm missing is any direct hostilities against the US that have caused deaths. There are plenty of examples of the US forces killing Iranians but none it appears of Iranian forces killing Americans.
You'll get no argument from me that Iran's government is a tyranny but governments being tyrannies has never stopped the US from being friendly with them; Trump just traveled to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other Middle East dictatorships kissing up to tyrants who due similar things to the list of human rights abuses you made for Iran.
@no1marauder saidSo are you not seeing Americans killed by Iran in the Google list?
I'm well aware that Iran aids resistance movements against Israeli and US occupation forces.
What I'm missing is any direct hostilities against the US that have caused deaths. There are plenty of examples of the US forces killing Iranians but none it appears of Iranian forces killing Americans.
You'll get no argument from me that Iran's government is a tyranny but g ...[text shortened]... s kissing up to tyrants who due similar things to the list of human rights abuses you made for Iran.
@Rajk999 saidHe only sees what fits his narrative.
So are you not seeing Americans killed by Iran in the Google list?
America is evil, white people suck, Christianity does nothing but harm and is worse than Islam.
@Rajk999 saidNo, I don't.
So are you not seeing Americans killed by Iran in the Google list?
Were Soviet soldiers killed by the US in Afghanistan when we aided the Mujaheddin?
Would our aid in that conflict have justified the Soviets attacking the US?
@Cliff-Mashburn saidAmerica is basically a nice place with a few too many racist scumbags like yourself.
He only sees what fits his narrative.
America is evil, white people suck, Christianity does nothing but harm and is worse than Islam.
Ditto about white folks.
I don't take sides between silly, outmoded superstitions.
@no1marauder saidAttacks against Americans. Why are you singling out American homeland.
No, I don't.
Were Soviet soldiers killed by the US in Afghanistan when we aided the Mujaheddin?
Would our aid in that conflict have justified the Soviets attacking the US?
Attacks Against Americans (Selected Incidents)
- 1979–1981 Iranian students, with Tehran’s backing, took 66 Americans hostage at the U.S. Embassy.
- April 1983 Suicide bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut (17 Americans killed), by Iran-backed Islamic Jihad.
- October 1983 Bombing of Marine compound in Beirut (241 U.S. service members killed), by Iran-backed Hezbollah.
- March 1984 Kidnapping and murder of CIA station chief William Buckley in Beirut.
Yes. Soviets can try to attack the US for helping the Mujahaddin. Thats their choice. Justified or not, the US will respond.