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https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Originally posted by @kingdavid403It goes back to the idea of making money.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers
Originally posted by @philokaliaHe's a liar and a thief and Trumptards believe his lies and that he is for America first. $45.000 or 240.000 by not paying American workers? Not even close. Maybe you should think about your workers and their families welfare before your jet skis. Which he can already afford by the way. Personally, I would give up my jet skis any day to know my workers have health insurance. How about you Mr.Selfish Greedy? Or, is it that you are only concerned about yourself and your welfare and that you could care a less if your workers or their family members die from no health insurance so you can have jet skis?
It goes back to the idea of making money.
I might believe that it is inappropriate for the state to subsidize my wheat... But if I have a choice between making $45,000 and making $240,000... What should I choose?
I can continue arguing and voting for logical policies...
Why not do with a second home on Pelican Lake and a jet ski?
I might ...[text shortened]... ge of debt... wouldn't he be an IDIOT if he wasn't pursuing the best possible way to make money?
Originally posted by @kingdavid403First off... "Liar and thief." Yeah, OK. I am not sure about that. I think that isn't true.
He's a liar and a thief and Trumptards believe his lies and that he is for America first. $45.000 or 240.000 by not paying American workers? Not even close. Maybe you should think about your workers and their families welfare before your jet skis. Which he can already afford by the way. Personally, I would give up my jet skis any day to know my wor ...[text shortened]... s if your workers or their family members die from no health insurance so you can have jet skis?
Originally posted by @philokaliaFirst off... "Liar and thief." Yeah, OK. I am not sure about that. I think that isn't true.
First off... "Liar and thief." Yeah, OK. I am not sure about that. I think that isn't true.
Trumptards? Yeah man, OK. Glad we're off on the right foot.
Should I think about workers and their families? Of course, but isn't that what your magnificent welfare state is for?
We have this funny situation where Pres. Obama failed to create circumsta ...[text shortened]... is this conversation too deep for a forum, lol. Should we all just be shouting and complaining.
Originally posted by @philokaliaDon't be silly. Randians like you never believe the state shouldn't subsidise you. What you disagree with is them subsidising anyone else. Even - no, particularly - some poor sod who might actually need it.
It goes back to the idea of making money.
I might believe that it is inappropriate for the state to subsidize my wheat...
Originally posted by @kingdavid403So you want the govt to STEAL from the rich and GIVE to the poor?
[b]First off... "Liar and thief." Yeah, OK. I am not sure about that. I think that isn't true.
Ever heard of Trump University? or all the other people he has ripped of in business deals?
Trumptards? Yeah man, OK. Glad we're off on the right foot.
Yep, me too.
Should I think about workers and their families? Of course, but isn't tha ...[text shortened]... e already hallucinating about people shouting and can't take the heat from your own false posts.
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoopleSo you want the government to STEAL from the poor and working classes to give to the rich?
So you want the govt to STEAL from the rich and GIVE to the poor?
Originally posted by @mott-the-hoopleOh, but it’s alright for the rich to steal from the producing classes?
So you want the govt to STEAL from the rich and GIVE to the poor?
Originally posted by @kingdavid403They haven't.
So you want the government to STEAL from the poor and working classes to give to the rich?
Originally posted by @shavixmirNo, its just that you are looking at it in a stupid way.
Oh, but it’s alright for the rich to steal from the producing classes?
Oh, you don’t call that theft, eh?
Well... perhaps theft is just a way of looking at things, then?
Originally posted by @mott-the-hooplelol, unhuh. Who gets the most welfare money (government subsides) from hard working tax payers dumb arse? Poor and working class people or wealthy rich corporations? Who pays a larger percent of their income in taxes, the poor and working classes or the wealthy? Unhuh. Then they turn around and make money off them in their businesses and write off all expenses and then some. Turns out that they (the wealthy) are robbing the poor and working classes to become even wealthier. Most wealthy do not pay their far share of taxes if anything. So who in reality are the ones actually paying the most taxes? The working class. Most wealthy today are nothing but freeloading rip-offs. Your false god Trump calls it being smart. You know, like his new tax scam for himself and the wealthy elite. End of story.
They haven't.
Originally posted by @philokaliaReally. You are unsure that Trump is a liar? Really?
[b]First off... "Liar and thief." Yeah, OK. I am not sure about that. I think that isn't true.
Originally posted by @stevemccWow...the concept of NO ONE ever lies...@stevemcc...do you infer that YOU have never lied?
Really. You are unsure that Trump is a liar? Really?
This is the nub of it.
Trump advocates who think maybe Trump is not a liar are simply not living in the same world I am.
The evidence is rather overwhelming for any intellectually honest person. He lies almost every time he opens his mouth. But you don't think that's true.
Now I don't believe you either.
Originally posted by @kingdavid403" Who gets the most welfare money (government subsides) from hard working tax payers dumb arse? "
lol, unhuh. Who gets the most welfare money (government subsides) from hard working tax payers dumb arse? Poor and working class people or wealthy rich corporations? Who pays a larger percent of their income in taxes, the poor and working classes or the wealthy? Unhuh. Then they turn around and make money off them in their businesses and write off ...[text shortened]... are nothing but freeloading rip-offs. Your false god Trump calls it being smart. End of story.