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@eladar said
Crimea was part of the Russian Federation before all this stuff?

What were Putin's poll numbers before the annexation of Crimea as compared to after? This event was not meant to take over the Ukraine but improve Putin's position in Russia. It was all orchestrated for Russian propaganda.
Oh yeah because anyone threatening Putins grip on power through wouldnt have ended up in prison much. You don’t know when to stop being an idiot do you. Putin didn’t have to worry about his poll figures then and he does not have to worry about them now which is why your chump trump admires him so much.


@kevcvs57 said
Oh yeah because anyone threatening Putins grip on power through wouldnt have ended up in prison much. You don’t know when to stop being an idiot do you. Putin didn’t have to worry about his poll figures then and he does not have to worry about them now which is why your chump trump admires him so much.
So you are saying politicians do not care about poll numbers?

Or are you saying that Russians could never get rid of a leader they hate?


@mott-the-hoople said
BINGO!!!
Lol you must get your ass kicked all the time in the bingo halls, they hate it when someone gets it wrong.

“the sanctions...all part of the obama/clinton insurance plan...obama placed these sanctions in the last month of his term knowing Trump would have to ease them.”
Your words.
jesus you people you people are at least thick enough to think that everybody else is thick.
None of you are making any actual sense, your just rambling on regardless of the cold hard facts.
As for Obama putting sanctions on Putin who he was colluding with because he knew it would make life harder for the next guy who was colluding with Putin , well I’m lost for words at the utter stupidity of that one.”

My retort.
Remember when I mentioned the importance of ‘internal logic’ to an argument.


@kevcvs57 said
How come oh wise one
Trump was not "colluding with Russia".

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@mott-the-hoople said
Trump was not "colluding with Russia".
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@kevcvs57 said
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why dont you explain why it is necessary for you to cling to this lie when it has been disproven by a lenghthy investigation by a group of hostile democrats?

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Personally I think both sides have dirty laundry they need to keep secret. Although the Dems would love to get Trump they can not without taking themselves down at the same time.


@mott-the-hoople said
why dont you explain why it is necessary for you to cling to this lie when it has been disproven by a lenghthy investigation by a group of hostile democrats?
Not proven is not the same as innocent, I saw him with my own eyes calling for his Russian cohorts to release more emails. We all saw him arrange a secret meeting with Putin, if he had nothing to hide he wouldn’t have done that, there is obviously stuff going on between them that trump doesn’t want your intelligence agencies knowing about, the mans a Russian asset pure and simple. You be an idiot if you want, I’ll believe my own eyes and ears.


@kevcvs57 said
Not proven is not the same as innocent, I saw him with my own eyes calling for his Russian cohorts to release more emails. We all saw him arrange a secret meeting with Putin, if he had nothing to hide he wouldn’t have done that, there is obviously stuff going on between them that trump doesn’t want your intelligence agencies knowing about, the mans a Russian asset pure and simple. You be an idiot if you want, I’ll believe my own eyes and ears.
so you double down on your lie?


@mott-the-hoople said
why dont you explain why it is necessary for you to cling to this lie when it has been disproven by a lenghthy investigation by a group of hostile democrats?
It is you who are telling falsehoods. Assuming you are referring to the Mueller Report, it nowhere states it has "disproven" there was "collusion" between the Trump Campaign and the Russian Government.


@no1marauder said
It is you who are telling falsehoods. Assuming you are referring to the Mueller Report, it nowhere states it has "disproven" there was "collusion" between the Trump Campaign and the Russian Government.
what kind of world do you live in when you think like this? Every avenue was exausted, prosecutor team even had an agenda to find something, anything, they didnt.

Several democrat enemies were caught up while the democrat friends were let go.

No, idiot, Trump was not working with rusia, it was the democrats that were.

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@mott-the-hoople said
what kind of world do you live in when you think like this? Every avenue was exausted, prosecutor team even had an agenda to find something, anything, they didnt.

Several democrat enemies were caught up while the democrat friends were let go.

No, idiot, Trump was not working with rusia, it was the democrats that were.
You really are completely brainwashed; I'd wager you haven't even read a single page of the Report, have you?

Your statements are false pure and simple.

EDIT: Here's a simple question: why did Trump's campaign manager give internal polling data to a Russian with "ties to Russian intelligence"?

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@no1marauder said
You really are completely brainwashed; I'd wager you haven't even read a single page of the Report, have you?

Your statements are false pure and simple.
the mueller report that found Trump or any members of his campaign team did not collude or coordinate with the russian govt.?

that one?


@mott-the-hoople said
the mueller report that found Trump or any members of his campaign team did not collude or coordinate with the russian govt.?

that one?
It did not so find.


@no1marauder said
It did not so find.
well maybe you can quote then where mueller did find collusion.

In your world you just never admit when you are wrong...thats the reason I call you out on your lies...and I love it 😂