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Originally posted by utherpendragonAs far as I'm concerned, Bradley Manning should get a pardon, an apology and a medal or two. Nothing he did harmed the US in any way and the more information citizens have about what this government is doing the better.
This prison planet article you have linked us to is a bit suspect. For example, it claims Army Pfc. Bradley Manning is being "tortured" while held in solitary confinement Quantico brig in Virginia.
When according to ABC News he spent 9 months there and then was transferred to a (medium security detention facility) Joint Regional Correctional Facili ...[text shortened]... s,chess with the other inmates.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13421925#.TtLQlLKBq0s
EDIT: Here's why:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/bradley-manning-imprisonment-wikileaks
Originally posted by skipper2666Has no one the gumption to answer??
Now everyone! what about our War Vets being beaten the hell out of?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/14/scott-olsen-first-statement-occupy-oakland
OK lets try this then ---
The plight of The First Responders? Any views / comments on some of the most selfless and brave Americans.
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Originally posted by skipper2666Yes, they are. And it's really sad.
Are The Western World countries heading towards becoming Police States? Yes or No - anyone.
If they are! Then WHY?
Another example (and there are so many these days, really), is the new SOPA bill, which basically grants the attorney general the right to shut down websites at will.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr3261ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr3261ih.pdf
What happened to due process?
Originally posted by utherpendragonI have several of Alex Jones' Police State series of DVDs. They all seem logical, and well documented. There is hardly any doubt but that we are far more accepting of Police State tactics than would have been the case 20 years ago.
No confusion here.
Apparently, the main point now is the veracity of the link itself.
If it is sensationalizing and basically falsifying the treatment of PFC Manning how can we trust what it says about the "peaceful" war vet incident ?
Whether this is just the natural progression of the tendency of government to increase and consolidate its power, or a deliberate plan to do the same thing, it seems to be undeniable that it is happening.
Originally posted by no1marauderThe problem with Bradley Manning's actions is that he wasn't a private citizen, but a soldier. A soldier gives up some of his autonomy when sworn to duty.
As far as I'm concerned, Bradley Manning should get a pardon, an apology and a medal or two. Nothing he did harmed the US in any way and the more information citizens have about what this government is doing the better.
EDIT: Here's why:
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/bradley-manning-imprisonment-wikileaks
Originally posted by badmoonThe 99% aren't represented by the malcontents of the Occupy crowd. If the wealthy are the 1%, the Occupiers are perhaps another 1%.
One thing, the violence against the 99% was surprising if not alarming.
The other 98% are busy going to work, play, whatever, not camping out and ruining public parks.
Originally posted by normbenignOk but it doesn't warrant assaults by the police.
The 99% aren't represented by the malcontents of the Occupy crowd. If the wealthy are the 1%, the Occupiers are perhaps another 1%.
The other 98% are busy going to work, play, whatever, not camping out and ruining public parks.
Originally posted by badmoonYes, I agree. In Detroit, they ran the course of their permit, applied for another few days to clean up, and went away, ostensibly someplace indoors with Michigan winter fast approaching.
Ok but it doesn't warrant assaults by the police.
As I see it, we the people are being trained to accept police violence. Why and for what final end, I don't know.
Originally posted by normbenignI know that you stated that we the people are being trained to accept police violence but you're not sure for what end......... I'm interested in your point of view on this matter, could you hazard a few probables at why please?
Yes, I agree. In Detroit, they ran the course of their permit, applied for another few days to clean up, and went away, ostensibly someplace indoors with Michigan winter fast approaching.
As I see it, we the people are being trained to accept police violence. Why and for what final end, I don't know.