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  1. Zugzwang
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    15 Jan '21 18:44
    @suzianne said
    Look at the Capitol riot. How many of those mostly white protestors got beaten down? Answer: not even a fraction as many as had they been black.
    Political bias and racism are NOT mutually exclusive explanations for police behavior.
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    15 Jan '21 20:49
    @duchess64 said
    Political bias and racism are NOT mutually exclusive explanations for police behavior.
    Definitely. Just look at Washington and Hong Kong. Even in the more civilised countries, there is at least some overlap.
  3. Subscriberkevcvs57
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    15 Jan '21 21:41
    @joe-shmo said
    Estimates of the damage to private and public property as a result of the George Floyd "protests" 1 to 2 BILLION dollars.

    Gee wiz...I can't imagine why these poor activist had more rubber bullets shot at them!
    Spoken like a bead counter
    The damage done on the 6th went well beyond monetisation.
  4. Zugzwang
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    16 Jan '21 23:32
    @duchess64 said
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/13/us-police-use-of-force-protests-black-lives-matter-far-right

    "US police three times as likely to use force against leftwing protesters, data finds.
    Law enforcement responses to more than 13,000 protests show a
    clear disparity in responses, new statistics show."

    "Police in the United States are three times more likely ...[text shortened]... lice seem overwhelmingly right-wing, and that political
    bias evidently influences how they operate.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-riot-police-neo-nazis-far-right

    "US Capitol riot: police have long history of aiding neo-Nazis and extremists"

    "For years, domestic terrorism researchers have warned that there are police
    departments in every region of America counting white supremacist extremists
    and neo-Nazi sympathizers among their ranks.

    To these experts, and the activists who have been targeted by law enforcement
    officers in past years, it came as no surprise that police officers were part of the
    mob that stormed the US Capitol on 6 January. In fact, the acceptance of far-right
    beliefs among law enforcement, they say, helped lay the groundwork for the
    extraordinary attacks in the American capital."

    "Extremism experts and survivors of far-right violence have for years cried foul about
    the close ties between some police and white supremacist groups. These links
    have escalated under the Trump era, they’ve warned, with numerous examples of
    police openly protecting far-right organizers, including armed and violent ones."

    "The subsequent investigation, led by the California Highway Patrol (CHP), focused on
    the anti-fascist counter-protesters injured in the stabbings, with records showing
    that police worked with white supremacists to identify leftist activists and pursue
    criminal charges against the stabbing victims.

    The lead CHP investigator, Donovan Ayres, repeatedly stated in police records
    that he viewed the neo-Nazis as victims and the anti-fascists as suspects."

    "Because of the way policing works in America, it also attracts people with explicitly racist
    views – giving them a professional license to patrol Black neighborhoods and allowing
    them to join a system that stops, searches, arrests and prosecutes people of color at disproportionately high rates, experts say."

    "Despite the clear evidence of explicit racism within policing, the US has not prioritized
    investigating white supremacists in law enforcement. This is particularly true under
    Trump, whose administration has focused its efforts to combat domestic terrorism
    on targeting Black activists and other leftist groups."
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