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@sh76 saidYou think all this crap is about protesting Israeli policies?
Yeah, but I wasn't being facetious. I really do think stopping monetary aid to Israel is a good thing.
What I'm bitter about is the resurfacing worldwide hate-the-Jews movement.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/chilling-philly-protest-on-nazi-terror-anniversary-demands-jewish-owned-shops-leave-the-city/ar-AA2gLWlr
https://www.cija.ca/this_weekend_stand_against_hate ...[text shortened]... iaspora/antisemitism/article-883154
You think all this crap is about protesting Israeli policies?
No, but I think most of it is, and am convinced this "worldwide hate-the-Jews movement" as you call it would be far less widespread were it not for the fact that the Israel military has slaughtered so many innocent Muslim women and children with the passive approval of Benjamin Netanyahu.
I'm afraid old Ben has been using a sledgehammer, where a scalpel would be far more effective.
@sh76 saidYou'll find that almost zero percent of people who protest Israel's human rights abuses condone any form antisemitism.
Yeah, but I wasn't being facetious. I really do think stopping monetary aid to Israel is a good thing.
What I'm bitter about is the resurfacing worldwide hate-the-Jews movement.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/chilling-philly-protest-on-nazi-terror-anniversary-demands-jewish-owned-shops-leave-the-city/ar-AA2gLWlr
https://www.cija.ca/this_weekend_stand_against_hate ...[text shortened]... iaspora/antisemitism/article-883154
You think all this crap is about protesting Israeli policies?
Jewish discrimination is real and it's abhorrent. Antisemitism far predates the current state of Israel, by centuries.
Maybe it's because, as you pointed out earlier, that Jews only make up 1 percent of the population, that the rest of the U.S. isn't as aware of hatred towards Jews as we should be. Or maybe we are aware and don't speak out and address it like we should. For that, I apologize.
As a member of the Jewish community, you're more in tune with Jewish issues than the rest of us.
I think the main problem is that Jews as a community are viewed as successful minorities; there's that old belief that Jews "own everything" and run the world behind the scenes. This belief might unfairly result in people dismissing claims of antisemitism as "whining" or acting like victims.
Israel is surrounded by enemies. That's a frightening and I can't think of any other country experiencing this.
Likewise, I can't imagine what it's like to be a Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank. As hard as it may be, try not to confuse criticism of Israel with hatred of Jews. I acknowledge that real antisemitism complicates this, but try to separate the two.
Think of Duchess and how virulent her attacks on those who criticized China were. Violence against Asians was and is real; but she kept equating legitimate criticism of a government with Sinophobia. Don't make the same mistake.
@vivify saidThe actions of Palestinians on 7th October 2023, is a good example of hateful - a hateful religion and a stupid people. People like you enjoy seeing Jews being raped and slaughtered. But for every Jew killed the cost is 10 times greater.
Also, hateful pro-Israel supporters like Rajk don't help, nor do Republicans like Michele Salzman who said "all of them" should die when referring to Palestinians.
Such people cause backlash against pro-Israel supporters.
Here are the details.
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On October 7, 2023 — the Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah — Hamas launched "Operation Al-Aqsa Flood," firing thousands of rockets from Gaza into Israel within a span of about 20 minutes to serve as cover for a ground incursion. Roughly 6,000 Hamas fighters and other militants breached the border and invaded southern Israel by land, sea, and air, overwhelming Israeli military positions and pouring into civilian communities.
Where it happened:
• Attackers struck 20 communities — largely kibbutzim (agricultural communities) near the Gaza border — as well as the Nova music festival near Re'im, where at least 325 people were killed, and several military bases.
• Militants massacred civilians in the kibbutzim, taking hostages and setting fire to homes with families still inside.
The killing: Approximately 1,200 people were killed, of whom at least 809 were confirmed civilians, including women, children and older persons. Entire families were shot in their homes or safe rooms; people were burned alive; attackers went house to house executing residents. The assault involved systematic brutality including torture, rape, and the murder of babies, children, and elderly victims. Hamas militants also reportedly engaged in mutilation and sexual and gender-based violence, and a March 2024 UN report found evidence that some victims were subjected to sexual violence before being killed. Some bodies remained unidentified due to the extent of mutilation. It is widely described as the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. 7 October: UN experts call for end of violence and accountability.
Hostages
In total, 251 people — mostly civilians, including children, elderly people, and soldiers — were taken hostage and dragged back into Gaza. The hostages included citizens of Israel, Argentina, China, France, Germany, the Philippines, Russia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Tanzania, Thailand, the United States and other countries.
What happened to them:
• By January 26, 2026, the remains of the last Israeli hostage were recovered and returned to Israel for burial — no Israelis remained captive in Gaza from that point. Over the course of the war, a total of 168 hostages were recovered alive, while 87 were retrieved already deceased.
• Releases happened in stages: an initial batch during a November 2023 truce, further releases and rescues through 2024–2025, and the remainder tied to the ceasefire/hostage deal that concluded in early 2026.
• Some hostages were killed by their captors during the war rather than dying of other causes — for example, six hostages, including Israeli-American Hersh Goldberg-Polin, were found executed in a tunnel in Rafah, killed 48 to 72 hours before their bodies were recovered as Israeli forces closed in.
This triggered Israel's military campaign in Gaza, which has since killed tens of thousands of Palestinians — a separate, heavily contested set of figures and its own humanitarian catastrophe.
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@vivify saidThank you. I appreciate your sympathy and kind words, and I will consider your caution.
You'll find that almost zero percent of people who protest Israel's human rights abuses condone any form antisemitism.
Jewish discrimination is real and it's abhorrent. Antisemitism far predates the current state of Israel, by centuries.
Maybe it's because, as you pointed out earlier, that Jews only make up 1 percent of the population, that the rest of the U.S. isn't ...[text shortened]... he kept equating legitimate criticism of a government with Sinophobia. Don't make the same mistake.
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@paradox4 saidI don't doubt that Israeli actions have driven some of the increase in Jew-hate, but that doesn't make it one iota more acceptable.
You think all this crap is about protesting Israeli policies?
No, but I think most of it is, and am convinced this "worldwide hate-the-Jews movement" as you call it would be far less widespread were it not for the fact that the Israel military has slaughtered so many innocent Muslim women and children with the passive approval of Benjamin Netanyahu.
I'm afraid old Ben has been using a sledgehammer, where a scalpel would be far more effective.
If someone says they hate black people because blacks commit 58% of murders (I'm just making a point, not a factual assertion, so no need for anyone to quibble with that number), then people would justifiably lash out at that person as being a racist. Why? Because innocent black people are not responsible for murders committed by guilty black people.
Spray painting "Zionist Food" on a Jewish-owned restaurant in Bala Cynwyd or screaming "child-killer" at me because I'm walking down a New York street in a yarmulka is hatemongering with zero justification. Period.
As I posted earlier, Jews were targeted in 64% of all religious hate crimes in 2025. Assuming that maybe 50-60% of Americans are religious, that means that Jews are more than 15 times more likely to be victims of religious hate crimes than others. Jews are roughly 2% of the US population. Anti-Jewish incidents represented about 14% of all reported hate crimes overall - that means that Jews are 7 times more likely to be victimized by hate crimes than the general population.
There is zero doubt in my mind that the over-the-top hateful rhetoric against Israel (that you almost never see against Chinese, Russians, Persians, Africans, etc., despite similarly harsh human rights violation allegations) contributes strongly to this.
Go on X or Facebook and find a story or post about the Iran war or AIPAC or Israel by an account with a non-Jewish audience, and read the comments. Then come back to me and tell me I have nothing to worry about.
@vivify saidIts good advice to 'not be like you'. You are the typical closet supporter of Islam. You never condemn their heinous atrocities, their barbaric beheading of people for trivial offences and their constant jihad and suicide missions. Thankfully Europe is finding out now what the Jews, and all aware people of this world have known for centuries, that Muslims are an evil bunch and must be avoided. Its coming to a city near you very soon. Hope you are ready.
Sh76 - Don't be like this guy. It's exactly what Duchess did with critics of China.
@vivify saidThe number of high profile Palestinian-haters (whom I also don't like) is microscopic compared to the high-profile Jew haters.
Also, hateful pro-Israel supporters like Rajk don't help, nor do Republicans like Michele Salzman who said "all of them" should die when referring to Palestinians.
Such people cause backlash against pro-Israel supporters.
On August 20, Hasan Piker said in August that if American Jews “keep putting this idea out there that they are singularly invested in Israel,” someone could eventually “take action” against American Jews.
That is eerily remenioscient of Adolf Hilter's 1939 speech that "If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!"
Abdul El-Sayed appeared with Piker at multiple campaign events.
Given the oppostunity to disavow Piker 6 days AFTER he made the above statement, Al Sayed declined to do so.
@sh76 saidThat's an interesting point. I can think of more "high profile" individuals who've made disparaging comments about Jews than of Palestinians. Trump being one of them.
The number of high profile Palestinian-haters (whom I also don't like) is microscopic compared to the high-profile Jew haters.
On August 20, Hasan Piker said in August that if American Jews “keep putting this idea out there that they are singularly invested in Israel,” someone could eventually “take action” against American Jews.
That is eerily remenioscient of Adolf Hilt ...[text shortened]... he above statement, Al Sayed declined to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBbuRRUZTKU&t=43s
Possibly because Jews are seen as being in positions of power and money, "high-profile" people who are also in such positions tend to be more vocal about them. Public figures don't usually discuss Palestinians outside of politics.
El-Sayed should've had more balls and said something about that antisemitic comment. Both parties fail to criticize their own; like Dems overlooking Nancy Pelosi's insider trading, for example. Or Republicans and Trump's endless list of criminality.
@vivify saidEl-Sayed is Semitic. Right?
That's an interesting point. I can think of more "high profile" individuals who've made disparaging comments about Jews than of Palestinians. Trump being one of them.
Possibly because Jews are seen as being in positions of power and money, "high-profile" people who are also in such positions tend to be more vocal about them. Public figures don't usually discuss Palesti ...[text shortened]... ancy Pelosi's insider trading, for example. Or Republicans and Trump's endless list of criminality.
How can a Semitic person be Anti Semitic?
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@Metal-Brain saidHasan Piker, a Turkish political commentator, made the antisemitic comment. El-Sayed failed to criticize him for it.
El-Sayed is Semitic. Right?
How can a Semitic person be Anti Semitic?