The conservative radio host, Scott Hennen, asked Mr Cheney if he agreed that "a dunk in water is a no-brainer" if it would unearth information of pending attacks and save lives.
Mr Cheney replied: "Well, it's a no-brainer for me."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6093298.stm
Does admission of using torture on kidnap victims help get votes in America these days?
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Originally posted by RagnorakLook on the bright side at least you didnt say -'Do threats of intimidation and torture help get votes in America these days?'- Though who knows how long before that happens!
....'Does admission of using torture on kidnap victims help get votes in America these days?'.....
Originally posted by RagnorakAh, so "a dunk in water" is now classed as torture?
The conservative radio host, Scott Hennen, asked Mr Cheney if he agreed that "a dunk in water is a no-brainer" if it would unearth information of pending attacks and save lives.
Mr Cheney replied: "Well, it's a no-brainer for me."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6093298.stm
Does admission of using torture on kidnap victims help get votes in America these days?
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Originally posted by princeoforangeHow so?
I don't know what it was referring to, nor much I care. The accusations of torture are clutches at straws.
You say you don't know/care what was being referred to, yet you say that the accusations are clutches at straws.
Slight disconnect there.
Originally posted by princeoforangeIf you choose to play the idiocy card, then feel free.
I don't know what it was referring to, nor much I care. The accusations of torture are clutches at straws.
The rest of us know that VP Cheney was referring to waterboarding.
Scott Hennen: "And I've had people call and say, please, let the Vice President know that if it takes dunking a terrorist in water, we're all for it, if it saves American lives. Again, this debate seems a little silly given the threat we face, would you agree?"
THE VICE PRESIDENT: "I do agree. And I think the terrorist threat, for example, with respect to our ability to interrogate high value detainees like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, that's been a very important tool that we've had to be able to secure the nation. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed provided us with enormously valuable information about how many there are, about how they plan, what their training processes are and so forth, we've learned a lot. We need to be able to continue that. "
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061024-7.html
"While President Bush today would not divulge the details of the interrogation techniques that have been used on high-value detainees, such as the 9/11 attacks architect Khalid Sheikh Mohamed, current and former CIA officers had previously described these techniques to ABC News.
The officers told ABC News there was a list of six progressively harsher techniques that were authorized, with the prisoner always handcuffed.
The first -- the attention grab, involving the rough shaking of a prisoner.
Second -- the attention slap, an open-handed slap to the face.
Third -- belly slap, meant to cause temporary pain, but no internal injuries.
Fourth -- long-term standing and sleep deprivation, 40 hours at least, described as the most effective technique.
Fifth -- the cold room. Prisoners left naked in cells kept in the 50s and frequently doused with cold water.
The CIA sources say the sixth, and harshest, technique was called "water boarding," in which a prisoner's face was covered with cellophane, and water is poured over it (pictured above) -- meant to trigger an unbearable gag reflex.
CIA officers told ABC News that 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed lasted the longest under water boarding, two and a half minutes, before beginning to talk."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/variety_of_inte.html
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Originally posted by RagnorakWell there aint no problem doing that to terrorists.
If you choose to play the idiocy card, then feel free.
The rest of us know that VP Cheney was referring to waterboarding.
Scott Hennen: "And I've had people call and say, please, [b]let the Vice President know that if it takes dunking a terrorist in water, we're all for it, if it saves American lives. Again, this debate seems a little silly given ...[text shortened]... talk.[/b]"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/variety_of_inte.html
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