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@moonbus saidTwo Santas. He wants to force Democrats to cut spending and then blame them for it.
about Gaetz is this:
a) he demands fiscal responsibility and spending cuts,
and
b) he adulates Donald Trump.
But then-president Trump ran up the third highest national debt of any U.S. president in history, and that was already before COVID hit; private citizen Trump bankrupted five companies (how can you bankrupt a casino??). Trump is a financial disaster area.
So, how is it that Gaetz doesn't get it??
http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/
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@wildgrass saidIm not...its sad you have to make things up to try to remain relevant
It is funny y'all love writing about trump handing out free money.
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@moonbus saidand now the facts come along...
and tax a cut for the rich.
"That means most middle-income and working-class earners enjoyed a tax cut that was at least double the size of tax cuts received by households earning $1 million or more."
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/584190-irs-data-prove-trump-tax-cuts-benefited-middle-working-class-americans-most/
@mott-the-hoople saidDid you forget already? The dollars added to each household came from the federal reserve with trump's signature on the check. We didn't forget. He just handed out trillions in free money (that he didn't have) to people, some of it went overseas, no questions asked. The largest bailout in US history, without even thinking about how it would be paid for. Here ya go.
Im not...its sad you have to make things up to try to remain relevant
You want to give trump credit for putting money in our checking accounts without also acknowledging the $8 trillion debt and inflation that it caused?
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@moonbus saidMoonbus mentions tax cut. Maybe he will be the one to tell us what the definition of 'Fair Share' is. Could you, Moon Bus?? Bernie said it a lot, (as he amassed a fortune and bought two more houses, and quit bashing millionaires, since he became one). Talk show hosts would ask Bernie to define it, and we asked all the light loafered- libs on the Forum, but none of you would define it. I do know that 1% of tapayers pay 50% of all income taxes......do you think that maybe even ole socialist Bernie thought that that is a gracious plenty? You would think Marauder, whjo promotes Marxism, would define it. Naaaa, lays low.
and tax a cut for the rich.
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@wildgrass saidWhat does this mean? And where does someone 'write about' that? Hey man, you messin' with us? Someone like Kev could take you seriously.
It is funny y'all love writing about trump handing out free money.
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@wildgrass saidyou jump from tax cuts to stimulus checks now trying to remain relevant? 😂
Did you forget already? The dollars added to each household came from the federal reserve with trump's signature on the check. We didn't forget. He just handed out trillions in free money (that he didn't have) to people, some of it went overseas, no questions asked. The largest bailout in US history, without even thinking about how it would be paid for. Here ya go.
You w ...[text shortened]... our checking accounts without also acknowledging the $8 trillion debt and inflation that it caused?
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@mott-the-hoople saidJust making sure the point was clear. You love trump because he handed out free money. $7000 ??
you jump from tax cuts to stimulus checks now trying to remain relevant? 😂
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@mott-the-hoople saidA lib changed subjects? Well, in that case, does he have any more news on Trump? A great new subject
you jump from tax cuts to stimulus checks now trying to remain relevant? 😂
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@wildgrass saidBeing a Lib, you can hardly get picky, as all the losers and dependents were grabbing any free money they could get. Actually, one person I know of on this forum bragged about it, but I’m not gonna name that person, because it is so heinous to take money like that. You know, there are wild animals, and tame animals for that matter, that get stuff which belongs to other animals. Brrrrrrr
Just making sure the point was clear. You love trump because he handed out free money. $7000 ??
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Until you give us a link, showing that the increase in household income factored in free money from the government, I will stand by the statement of an economist who said that that was earned income. No, I cannot remember where I saw it. That is OK, for purposes of this discussion, because we will just let you show us where the $5000 or whatever included free money from the government.
@averagejoe1 saidHow much did you get? In cash?
Until you give us a link, showing that the increase in household income factored in free money from the government, I will stand by the statement of an economist who said that that was earned income. No, I cannot remember where I saw it. That is OK, for purposes of this discussion, because we will just let you show us where the $5000 or whatever included free money from the government.
In just one of the two bills signed by trump, one of Mott's "households" with 3 kids in tow got $4,000 cash. Trump's name was on the check. Just because trump loves them. Free stuff!
Where did that money come from? Did any republican at the time say anything about how to pay for it?
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@mott-the-hoople saidIt does in any case represent lost revenue for the federal government, which translates into a higher deficit. Buying votes by mortgaging the future. That’s how private-citizen Trump financed his empire, too — on credit. The bill comes due for someone else farther down the road.
and now the facts come along...
"That means most middle-income and working-class earners enjoyed a tax cut that was at least double the size of tax cuts received by households earning $1 million or more."
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/584190-irs-data-prove-trump-tax-cuts-benefited-middle-working-class-americans-most/
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@wildgrass saidpoint to where I said anyone got $7000…go
How much did you get? In cash?
In just one of the two bills signed by trump, one of Mott's "households" with 3 kids in tow got $4,000 cash. Trump's name was on the check. Just because trump loves them. Free stuff!
Where did that money come from? Did any republican at the time say anything about how to pay for it?
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@averagejoe1 saidGimme gimme, free money. Aren’t you the one who thinks that is no way to run a government? Isn’t that exactly what Trump did? Handing out free money with no plan whatever how to cover the federal shortfall.
Moonbus mentions tax cut. Maybe he will be the one to tell us what the definition of 'Fair Share' is. Could you, Moon Bus?? Bernie said it a lot, (as he amassed a fortune and bought two more houses, and quit bashing millionaires, since he became one). Talk show hosts would ask Bernie to define it, and we asked all the light loafered- libs on the Forum, but none of y ...[text shortened]... acious plenty? You would think Marauder, whjo promotes Marxism, would define it. Naaaa, lays low.
He was just buying votes, at the expense of your children and grandchildren.