Originally posted by Eladar When [politicians] take a mile after we've given them an inch, it is about time we excercise our right given to us by the right to bear arms.
Ladies and Gentlemen. Introducing Eladar. One of RHP's prominent Tea Party supporters.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper It IS a position of power, period. There are many sectors of public service that involve all different kinds of power.
Politicians affect legislation that affects our lives.
Police officers have the power of arrest.
The military yields massive amounts of lethal force
The FDA has the power to decide what drugs and foods can be legally sold.
The list goes on.
Police officers have the power of arrest. Not according to n1m.
The fact that so many lefties believe that what I call wrong with America isn't actually a problem just goes to show how far the US has gone down the road of the New Class.
Originally posted by Eladar The only power they have is what we give them. When they take a mile after we've given them an inch, it is about time we excercise our right given to us by the right to bear arms.
How do you think this country was created? Treason is only feared by those who believe in the dominaiton of government. Any government that steps beyond its rightful place needs to be replaced.
Originally posted by Eladar Any government that steps beyond its rightful place needs to be replaced.
Do you personally get to decide what "steps beyond its rightful place" means? And do you personally get to decide exactly when this stepping beyond is deemed to have happened? You decide 'what' and you decide 'when' and then you can resort to using firearms against elected officials or public employees? Have I got the 'right' you are asserting right?
Originally posted by Eladar How do you think this country was created? Treason is only feared by those who believe in the dominaiton of government. Any government that steps beyond its rightful place needs to be replaced.
Originally posted by Eladar How do you think this country was created? Treason is only feared by those who believe in the dominaiton of government. Any government that steps beyond its rightful place needs to be replaced.
Do you really want to see a violent revolution? Because it's not 1776 anymore - they wouldn't be fighting this battle with muskets and bayonets. And not every revolution goes as nicely as that one did (the French Revolution is Exhibit A for all the things that can go wrong even in an 18th century world.)
If things get bad enough? Sure, but as you said this isn't the 1700's and if such a revolution were to succeed it would require that soldiers join the revolution. Soldiers would be duty bound to rebel if they decide that the government no longer follows the Constitution.
Originally posted by Melanerpes Do you really want to see a violent revolution? Because it's not 1776 anymore - they wouldn't be fighting this battle with muskets and bayonets. And not every revolution goes as nicely as that one did (the French Revolution is Exhibit A for all the things that can go wrong even in an 18th century world.)
Originally posted by Eladar Soldiers would be duty bound to rebel if they decide that the government no longer follows the Constitution.
"...if they decide..."?
So it is for each individual U.S. soldier to decide when and why they turn their firearms on (some or all of) their superior officers, the nation's elected representatives and public employees?
So it is for each individual U.S. soldier to decide when and why they turn their firearms on (some or all of) their superior officers, the nation's elected representatives and public employees?
So it is for each individual U.S. soldier to decide when and why they turn their firearms on (some or all of) their superior officers, the nation's elected representatives and public employees?
We're all free moral agents. Who would or could make such a decision other than the individual? Simply being the legal leaders of a nation don't impart moral infallibility; a German soldier during the Nazi years who turned his weapon against his superior officers and public employees surely wouldn't deserve moral condemnation.
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