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@Metal-Brain saidAnd you are wrong.
Steele was a British intelligence officer who fabricated a dossier that is a pack of lies to undermine Trump's presidency for the purpose of turning you against Russia while NATO is advancing east against Russia to provoke a war between Russia and Ukraine.
The USA prepared Ukraine for a Russian invasion because they knew NATO expansion would not be tolerated by Russia. ...[text shortened]... SA's back yard in Cuba. How did that go over in our country? NOBODY LIKES IT!
Learn from history.
And you're dissembling.
And you're rambling.
WHY do you defend Putin and Russia?
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@Metal-Brain saidIt's a 10 year old story metal brain. There were hundreds of news articles about it. Politicians on both sides of the aisle signed a report about it. Republicans called it a grave counterintelligence threat. They also said the Russian intelligence operatives were working with Trump campaign staff.
" Russia covertly interfered in our elections and wanted trump to win"
How? Just explain how and I will explain how benign it is. The Russians did nothing that Americans are not allowed to do. RT advertised on social media. Any American news website can do that legally. That is what bothers you?
Stop fooling yourself. RT advertising on social media is not election interference. PBS has BBC America on their network. Foreign election interference!
You can go read. It's not a hoax.
I'll also add that Marco Rubio led that investigative committee and signed the very real report about it. Not a hoax.
@Suzianne saidI have not made claims of support or not of him. You drag his name into conversations that I may reference, but nothing about what I said had anything to do with him. Your imagination works overtime, finding ways to connect people to him that have absolutely nothing to do with him.
This is patently insane, considering what the Trump administration is doing right now in response to the threat of everyone finding out exactly who he is.
Are you still going to support him when it all comes out?
This is exactly the same kind of moral bankruptcy shown by non-Christians calling themselves Christian.
Make your Stand. But just don't try to claim you were coerced after you choose poorly.
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@KellyJay saidI think you have supported him a lot on the forum, though. You defend him. You write that people are trying to "drag him through the mud" regarding Epstein, who he was friends with for more than 10 years, who rode on his jet at least 7 times, who talked frequently on the phone, who partied together.
I have not made claims of support or not of him. You drag his name into conversations that I may reference, but nothing about what I said had anything to do with him. Your imagination works overtime, finding ways to connect people to him that have absolutely nothing to do with him.
No one's dragging him through mud. These are factual accounts. One of the world's most repulsive criminals was good friends with the most powerful person in the world. That's fact and worthy of discussion. It's seems extremely unlikely that trump didn't know what his good friend did for work.
@wildgrass saidThere is no evidence of Russia collusion. Do you deny that?
It's a 10 year old story metal brain. There were hundreds of news articles about it. Politicians on both sides of the aisle signed a report about it. Republicans called it a grave counterintelligence threat. They also said the Russian intelligence operatives were working with Trump campaign staff.
You can go read. It's not a hoax.
I'll also add that Marco Rubio led that investigative committee and signed the very real report about it. Not a hoax.
Yes or no?
@Metal-Brain saidNot a hoax. I don't know what of collusion? If it's done in secret theres no way to know t's kind of an unprovable crime which is why trump stuck with that messaging.
There is no evidence of Russia collusion. Do you deny that?
Yes or no?
What evidence would be needed to show collusion?
Not a hoax. Russian interference was sweeping and systemic. The information warfare scheme was intended to promote Trump's candidacy. Papadopoulos, Flynn, Cohen , manafort, Gates all lied to investigators. They were in contact with Russians. There were 37 indictments and 14 criminal referrals.
Not a hoax.
@wildgrass saidYou guys are so full of hate that as soon as someone does not hate him as you do, you look at that as support. That is more than likely the reason there is such a push to cancel anyone who has anything to do with them, regardless of how they have behaved; being connected to them in some way is not hate. They are flawed.
I think you have supported him a lot on the forum, though. You defend him. You write that people are trying to "drag him through the mud" regarding Epstein, who he was friends with for more than 10 years, who rode on his jet at least 7 times, who talked frequently on the phone, who partied together.
No one's dragging him through mud. These are factual accounts. One of th ...[text shortened]... discussion. It's seems extremely unlikely that trump didn't know what his good friend did for work.
@KellyJay saidYou are pushing back on facts, not hate.
You guys are so full of hate that as soon as someone does not hate him as you do, you look at that as support. That is more than likely the reason there is such a push to cancel anyone who has anything to do with them, regardless of how they have behaved; being connected to them in some way is not hate. They are flawed.
@wildgrass saidThe fact that you hate him so, every chance you get, you go after him.
You are pushing back on facts, not hate.
@KellyJay saidIt's the rhetoric Kelly. Not "going after him". I am stating facts pertinent to the topic.
The fact that you hate him so, every chance you get, you go after him.
Do you have any concerns about Trump's DOJ handling a high profile and extremely disturbing case involving Trump's good friend ?
@KellyJay saidDo you support his abolishment of the Department of Education? Do you support his abolishment of critical government agencies, like FEMA, USAID and NOAA? Do you support his wanting to defund public television, which has educated so many children from low-income and middle-income families? Do you support his deportation policies and not allowing due process, against mostly non-white persons? Do you support his defunding of major universities because they admit students from other countries? Do you support his doing these things also against US citizens, not just people you call "illegal aliens", who are, again, mostly non-white people? Do you support his cutting taxes on the very rich, while increasing them against the poor? Do you support his cessation of SNAP programs, which often supply the only meal some children get all day?
The fact that you hate him so, every chance you get, you go after him.
If you can close your heart against these people that Jesus called our brothers, whom we are told to love, those we are told that if we do these things to them, we do them also to Him, then you are simply not a Christian if you cannot love Him enough to follow His teachings, and you do not deserve to be called Christian.
The people in Washington who do this are even worse because they call themselves Christian in order to secure Christian votes, making them complicit in causing others to not follow Jesus.
Therefore these MAGA Christians, those who co-opt the label Christian, are NOT doing the will of God. And yet according to everything I've seen here, you support these people in their attacks on humanity and Christianity.
They are talking the talk without walking the walk, and yet you still give them a pass for the evil they do against the least of Jesus' brothers.
Take another spin through Matthew 25 and Matthew 6 and tell me I'm wrong.
