@wildgrass saidHouse Intelligence investigators found the Obama intelligence team was wrong. Here is an excerpt from the link below:
According no1, there were three separate investigations into whether Obama spied on Trump's campaign. The first two came from the senate and house, one partisan and one bipartisan. Both investigations concluded no wrongdoing.
That wasn't good enough for Trump, so he hired John Durham to further investigate, and he did interviews and traveled internationally, and had acce ...[text shortened]... ou brought up, in which the CIA admitted to spying but chose not to discipline the parties involved.
"According to documents declassified this week, Obama’s intelligence team rushed to produce the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), a key pillar of the Trump–Russia probe, despite lacking empirical evidence. The ICA falsely claimed Russia sought to elect Trump—a conclusion House Intelligence investigators found contradicted by evidence that Vladimir Putin actually expected Clinton to win and intended to exploit her health and political vulnerabilities later."
https://www.newstarget.com/2025-07-26-docs-show-obama-aides-orchestrated-russia-hoax.html
And since the documents were recently declassified now you know why it is new. It was classified before now.
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@Metal-Brain saidNo wrongdoing is what I wrote. Could also be interpreted as NOT A Treasonous conspiracy.
House Intelligence investigators found the Obama intelligence team was wrong. Here is an excerpt from the link below:
"According to documents declassified this week, Obama’s intelligence team rushed to produce the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), a key pillar of the Trump–Russia probe, despite lacking empirical evidence. The ICA falsely claimed Russia soug ...[text shortened]... e the documents were recently declassified now you know why it is new. It was classified before now.
"Expected Clinton to win" actually isnt contradictory in any way with putins attempt to promote trump. How does that make sense to you?
It was classified to the public before now, but the investigative committees all reviewed these documents..all of them. The evidence is the same.
Trump invited Epstein to his wedding. Epstein came. Had a good time. He said he was Trump's closest friend.
They had a falling out. Trump says it's because Epstein stole his women. Those women were underage. When a reporter asks trump, what did you think Epstein was stealing them for? Trump walked away.
@wildgrass saidYes. According to Michael Wolff the wedding took place in 2005 well after Trump claimed he ended his friendship with Epstein.
Trump invited Epstein to his wedding. Epstein came. Had a good time. He said he was Trump's closest friend.
They had a falling out. Trump says it's because Epstein stole his women. Those women were underage. When a reporter asks trump, what did you think Epstein was stealing them for? Trump walked away.
If that is true Trump must have fabricated the whole falling out narrative. Maxwell recruited Virginia while Virginia was working at Trump's Mara Lago. So that makes it look like Trump was complicit in Maxwell's recruiting victims.
Since Virginia was suicided (killed) she cannot talk anymore. This scandal involves the murder of a victim to silence her. Trump should be impeached over this scandal, but republicans will probably back him anyway for partisan reasons alone. Trump is wounded over this scandal though and democrats are eager to beat him up as much as they can while they can. Have at it. He deserves it.
@wildgrass saidWe already have some of the names from Virginia's defamation lawsuit against Maxwell. Here are some excerpts from the link below:
Pam bondi in February: the Epstein client list is stilling on my desk right now.
Pam bondi now: there is no Epstein client list.
Where did it go? Why did it 'disapppear' right after Elon musk said Trump was in it? Why is ghislaune Maxwell rotting in prison for trafficking no one to nobody?
"the attorney questioning Giuffre ran down a list of prominent men with whom she said she was told to have sex.
"Other than Glenn Dubin, Stephen Kaufmann, Prince Andrew, Jean-Luc Brunel, Bill Richardson, another prince, the large hotel chain owner and Marvin Minsky"
A similar list of names appeared last year in court documents unsealed in the federal case against Epstein on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges. Many of those men have denied the allegations against them. When NPR contacted Richardson, the former New Mexico governor, last year, a spokesperson said, "The charges are completely false."
In that same deposition, Giuffre also said she was sent to have sex with former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, and that she first had sex with famous attorney Alan Dershowitz at Epstein's residence in New York. Last summer, both men denied meeting Giuffre.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/31/896627505/judge-releases-trove-of-sealed-records-related-to-case-against-ghislaine-maxwell
So we already have a partial list. Naturally they all deny it, but what do you expect them to do, admit they are guilty?
@Metal-Brain saidHe said she said should not have been necessary.
We already have some of the names from Virginia's defamation lawsuit against Maxwell. Here are some excerpts from the link below:
"the attorney questioning Giuffre ran down a list of prominent men with whom she said she was told to have sex.
"Other than Glenn Dubin, Stephen Kaufmann, Prince Andrew, Jean-Luc Brunel, Bill Richardson, another prince, the large hotel ch ...[text shortened]... partial list. Naturally they all deny it, but what do you expect them to do, admit they are guilty?
If you were running a criminal investigation of Epstein and Maxwell, had evidence that they trafficked over 1000 women, had bank records, had travel records, would you arrest him before obtaining any information on his business partners or clients that would allow you to arrest them as well?
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@Metal-Brain saidA lotta news today on the Epstein case:
Yes. According to Michael Wolff the wedding took place in 2005 well after Trump claimed he ended his friendship with Epstein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruKu71R96yc
If that is true Trump must have fabricated the whole falling out narrative. Maxwell recruited Virginia while Virginia was working at Trump's Mara Lago. So that makes it look like Trump was complici ...[text shortened]... d democrats are eager to beat him up as much as they can while they can. Have at it. He deserves it.
Ghislaune Maxwell moved to minimum security after meeting Trump's personal lawyer. Giuffres family is not happy about it, accusing trump of cozying up to sex offenders.
Hundreds of FBI field agents scrubbed Epstein docs to redact Trump's name from them prior to a possible release. This apparently happened before they made the decision not to release any files at all.
@wildgrass saidThe FBI is covering it up as well. They have a crap load of videos according to Pam Bondi. And nobody knows what Maxwell told the DOJ. Instead of letting her testify to congress so we could all watch it on C-Span that is covered up as well.
He said she said should not have been necessary.
If you were running a criminal investigation of Epstein and Maxwell, had evidence that they trafficked over 1000 women, had bank records, had travel records, would you arrest him before obtaining any information on his business partners or clients that would allow you to arrest them as well?
They are just insulting our intelligence. They are covering up a child sex trafficking ring and vindicating Q Anon. And all those actors that say Hollywood is deep in that as well. They were called crazy and they were right all along. Weinstein was just the tip of the iceberg. There are all sorts of perverts in Hollywood.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/nov/17/brendan-fraser-wont-attend-golden-globes-after-claiming-he-was-sexually-assaulted
@wildgrass saidPresidents are always blackmailable so they can be controlled. That is why Trump admits Israel is starving children to death and does nothing about it.
A lotta news today on the Epstein case:
Ghislaune Maxwell moved to minimum security after meeting Trump's personal lawyer. Giuffres family is not happy about it, accusing trump of cozying up to sex offenders.
Hundreds of FBI field agents scrubbed Epstein docs to redact Trump's name from them prior to a possible release. This apparently happened before they made the decision not to release any files at all.
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-dirt-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-brother-mark-2105478
Trump could do something about it if he was free to do what he wanted to. Israel is dependent on the USA for weapons.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/05/24/ronald-reagan-wasnt-afraid-to-use-leverage-to-hold-israel-to-task/
If Trump is not being controlled because he is being blackmailed he must approve of Israel starving children to death. What other conclusion could you come to?
@Metal-Brain saidThe victims names are all out there, on display regardless of their opinions on privacy, but EVERY single one of Epsteins accomplishes are redacted and no prosecutor is seeking charges?
Presidents are always blackmailable so they can be controlled. That is why Trump admits Israel is starving children to death and does nothing about it.
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-dirt-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-brother-mark-2105478
Trump could do something about it if he was free to do what he wanted to. Israel is dependent on the USA for weapons.
...[text shortened]... ailed he must approve of Israel starving children to death. What other conclusion could you come to?
Gross.
@wildgrass saidNo, not all of the victim's names are out there. Just the ones that have spoken out.
The victims names are all out there, on display regardless of their opinions on privacy, but EVERY single one of Epsteins accomplishes are redacted and no prosecutor is seeking charges?
Gross.
Some people say that Trump's name is redacted from the files, but if his name is blacked out how do they know it is Trump's name? Not that I don't believe his name was redacted, but how would you know? And if it is easy to tell it was him what good is the redaction?
@Metal-Brain saidAll was wrong word choice since there are over a thousand victims.
No, not all of the victim's names are out there. Just the ones that have spoken out.
Some people say that Trump's name is redacted from the files, but if his name is blacked out how do they know it is Trump's name? Not that I don't believe his name was redacted, but how would you know? And if it is easy to tell it was him what good is the redaction?
Handfuls of unindentified associates are listed in the Epstein indictment but never charged with crimes?
@wildgrass saidWe know it is a coverup. Powerful people are involved and to coverup for them I guess all involved must be covered up. It is a slap in the face to all of the victims since the predators go free.
All was wrong word choice since there are over a thousand victims.
Handfuls of unindentified associates are listed in the Epstein indictment but never charged with crimes?
Trump was likely doing young girls and Epstein had it on film. Now the FBI has it on film so the FBI is in on the coverup. The big question is who is blackmailing Trump with it?