29 Jul 20
@philokalia saidWhy don't you explain to us exactly who the Minneapolis police say he is?
I had thought this was debunked almost as soon as it started.
https://popculture.com/trending/news/george-floyd-protests-st-paul-police-debunk-police-officer-jordan-pederson-autozone-windows/
https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jacob-pederson-auto-zone-cop-not-umbrella-man/
etc.
Go on, we're listening.
29 Jul 20
@philokalia saidYou got nothing?
I had thought this was debunked almost as soon as it started.
https://popculture.com/trending/news/george-floyd-protests-st-paul-police-debunk-police-officer-jordan-pederson-autozone-windows/
https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jacob-pederson-auto-zone-cop-not-umbrella-man/
etc.
Okay, here it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
@philokalia saidI stand corrected.
I had thought this was debunked almost as soon as it started.
Have you seen the video?
Who is he?
30 Jul 20
@earl-of-trumps saidYa, its from a mid 90's spoof titled "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood"
@joe-shmo
<laugh> What the boohooie was that? Is that supposed to be a cut from a movie?
Ya, and y'all wonder why I drink?
BTW, Joe, do you recall, 1963, the infamous "Umbrella Man"? You're good if you do
I'm afraid I don't "remember" the "umbrella man" from the JFK assassination. I wasn't alive then.
@earl-of-trumps saidDid you even bother to look at the link Suzianne provided? Of course not; that would be an actual attempt to learn some facts which might be embarrassing to your extremist views.
https://www.fox9.com/news/surveillance-video-shows-st-paul-police-officer-is-not-umbrella-man-from-minneapolis-riots
Well, you don't have to gaze at CNN, how about the Star Tribune from Minneapolis:
"A masked man who was seen in a viral video smashing the windows of a south Minneapolis auto parts store during the George Floyd protests, earning him the moniker "Umbrella Man," is suspected of ties with a white supremacist group and sought to incite racial tension, police said."
" Investigators finally caught a break when a tipster e-mailed the MPD identifying him as a member of the Hells Angels biker gang who "wanted to sow discord and racial unrest by breaking out the windows and writing what he did on the double red doors," she wrote.
Police have also connected the 32-year-old man to a widely publicized incident in Stillwater late last month, in which a Muslim woman was confronted by men wearing white supremacist garb.
A subsequent investigation revealed the man was also an associate of the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, a small white supremacist prison and street gang based primarily in Minnesota and Kentucky. Several of its members were also present at the Stillwater incident."
https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/
30 Jul 20
@suzianne saidA political activist tipster is responsible for this recent joke the journalsits are circulating:
You got nothing?
Okay, here it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/us/umbrella-man-associated-white-supremacist-group-george-floyd/index.html
In the affidavit, Christensen wrote that she watched “innumerable hours” of videos on social media platforms trying to identify the suspect with no luck. Finally a tipster emailed the Minneapolis Police Department identifying the man as a member of the Hell’s Angels biker gang who “wanted to sow discord and racial unrest by breaking out the windows and writing what he did on the double red doors,” according to the affidavit.
MPD's stance on this?
Minneapolis police spokesman John Elder told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the investigation remains open and active and that he could not confirm the name of the person involved.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-over-floyd/2020/07/28/977f8f16-d11c-11ea-826b-cc394d824e35_story.html
... Journalists are fooling people by saying
- there's an investigation
- the tip says it could be this Nazi biker gangster in the Hell's Angels (lol?)
- The police are therefore investigating this Nazi biker gangster in the Hell's Angels
- Our proof... is the tip...
@philokalia saidBoy, you really don't make any effort to obtain the facts if they clash with your preconceived, extremist ideological bias. Journalists aren't releasing the name yet for obvious reasons, but the police have obtained search warrants identifying the suspect:
A political activist tipster is responsible for this recent joke the journalsits are circulating:
[quote]In the affidavit, Christensen wrote that she watched “innumerable hours” of videos on social media platforms trying to identify the suspect with no luck. Finally a tipster emailed the Minneapolis Police Department identifying the man as a member of the Hell’s Angels ...[text shortened]... therefore investigating this Nazi biker gangster in the Hell's Angels
- Our proof... is the tip...
"A Minneapolis police arson investigator said the act of vandalism at the AutoZone on E. Lake Street helped spark a chain reaction that led to days of looting and rioting. The store was among dozens of buildings across the city that burned to the ground in the days that followed.
"This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city," Sgt. Erika Christensen wrote in a search warrant affidavit filed in court this week. "Until the actions of the person your affiant has been calling 'Umbrella Man,' the protests had been relatively peaceful. The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension. Your affiant believes that this individual's sole aim was to incite violence."
https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/?refresh=true
So more than just the "tip", Philo.
@no1marauder
So they caught a tip and this solves it? They also caught a tip the umbrella man was a cop!
Me thinks you are in a hurry to convict "radical right wingers"
PS: I did not know that Hell's Angels was a white supremacist group. I have seen
African Americans ride with them before.