Originally posted by orfeooh, did not know that...
It's the people in the bunker who were morons, not you. I hadn't read the whole thread at that point and didn't know all that had happened.
The Iraqi government was very secular and was actively hostile against Islamic religious groups, regarding them as a threat.
anyway...
weapons of mass destruction and their nonexistence aside, i supported the war for simply ousting the madman hussein...
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Originally posted by rubberjaw30Which brings us back to Sudan and every other country with a terrible leader. Why doesn't the US invade Zimbabwe? Why didn't the US invade Iraq 15 years earlier?
oh, did not know that...
anyway...
weapons of mass destruction and their nonexistence aside, i supported the war for simply ousting the madman hussein...
Ousting a dictator is not regarded as a legitimate, legal reason for invading another country. That is exactly why all the rubbish about weapons of mass destruction was made up, to try and create a legitimate reason!
Originally posted by orfeotrue, but we can't blame bush for the false WMD reports...
Which brings us back to Sudan and every other country with a terrible leader. Why doesn't the US invade Zimbabwe? Why didn't the US invade Iraq 15 years earlier?
Ousting a dictator is not regarded as a legitimate, legal reason for invading another country. That is exactly why all the rubbish about weapons of mass destruction was made up, to try and create a legitimate reason!
that was he other guy, i forget his name...
and yes, ousting a ruthless dictator should be a god reason for invasion...
obviously, to invade cuba, zimbabwe, sudan, etc. would be completely impractical... bordering impossibility...
so i really don't have an educaed opinion on what should or shouldn't be done...
i just don't know...
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Originally posted by rubberjaw30No, you don't know. But its Bush's job to know.
true, but we can't blame bush for the false WMD reports...
that was he other guy, i forget his name...
and yes, ousting a ruthless dictator should be a god reason for invasion...
obviously, to invade cuba, zimbabwe, sudan, etc. would be completely impractical... bordering impossibility...
so i really don't have an educaed opinion on what should or shouldn't be done...
i just don't know...
Forget the false WMD reports. There is evidence on record that the inner circle started talking about invading Iraq on the evening of September 11, 2001, while they were in the presidential bunker. That was my original point.
Any manipulation of data after that was only to tell Bush and co. what they so desperately already wanted to hear.
Originally posted by orfeooh THAT'S what u meant by bunker...
No, you don't know. But its Bush's job to know.
Forget the false WMD reports. There is evidence on record that the inner circle started talking about invading Iraq on the evening of September 11, 2001, while they were in the presidential bunker. That was my original point.
Any manipulation of data after that was only to tell Bush and co. what they so desperately already wanted to hear.
im with ya now...
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Originally posted by slimjim1984 sucked? Panama, Drop Dead Legs, Jump, Hot for Teacher. C/mon, forget the video's and the pandering to teenage boy fantasies with the schoolboy themes, how about the double kick drum intro before Eddie goes ballistic and HFT launches. Thats straight ahead balls out rock that noone bothered to duplicate because they just didnt have the chops.
Van Halen did suck when David Lee Roth was the frontman.
How about their version of the Kinks , You Really Got Me. Probably the first VH song I ever saw on a big screen in a club one night and I was hooked until Sammy replaced DLR.
Sammy Hagar can eat his shorts. 5150, what was that other than beef burger analogies dressed as sexual double entendre?
Okay maybe Dave lost his fanbase when he was Just a Gigolo and he really started loving California Girls, and maybe some felt that he had tarnished the reputation of VH by going seriously soft core (musically speaking of course) but if you set aside any front man issues then VH post DLR just didnt have the songs. They became increasingly formulaic and dull by comparison. And lets not forget DLR. In full flight he had the moves and the athleticism to make just about any other frontman look like they were hardly even trying.
Originally posted by kmax87no, id have to say Angus young was the greatest frontman of all time... ...........
1984 sucked? Panama, Drop Dead Legs, Jump, Hot for Teacher. C/mon, forget the video's and the pandering to teenage boy fantasies with the schoolboy themes, how about the double kick drum intro before Eddie goes ballistic and HFT launches. Thats straight ahead balls out rock that noone bothered to duplicate because they just didnt have the chops.
How about ...[text shortened]... d the athleticism to make just about any other frontman look like they were hardly even trying.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30Sure you can.
true, but we can't blame bush for the false WMD reports...
that was he other guy, i forget his name...
and yes, ousting a ruthless dictator should be a god reason for invasion...
obviously, to invade cuba, zimbabwe, sudan, etc. would be completely impractical... bordering impossibility...
so i really don't have an educaed opinion on what should or shouldn't be done...
i just don't know...
You can blame Bush for Global Warming, racism, poverty, and your own miserable, empty life .. you CAN blame Bush for whatever you like.
Whatever you do .. avoid personal responsibilty at all costs.
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Sincerity is the key to this whole business .. once you can fake that, you've got it made.