Why do liberals support Hamas?

Why do liberals support Hamas?

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@AverageJoe1
Someone please give me a thumbs up on my post. Hotel breaks contract, Marauder sides with the non-citizens over the veterans.

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@averagejoe1 said
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2018-06-11/ty-article-opinion/.premium/why-do-leftists-love-a-palestinian-cause-that-rejects-their-values/0000017f-e57a-d62c-a1ff-fd7bcc180000

You people are a confused mob. Maybe that is why you stick together like glue, because you cannot reason, and there is safety in numbers.
Time to get your signs out and catch a bus ...[text shortened]... is crap.

PS: How do y'all get off from work to go march iin DC? I would fire anyone doing that.
Liberals support the long suffering Palestinian people, illiberal’s hate them because illiberal’s like yourself are stupid and easily conditioned to hate Muslims.
If illiberal’s would stop supporting Israel ‘right or wrong’ the Palestinians would not be forced to rely on the illiberal’s of Hamas for some sort of protection and self respect.
If everyone would reject illiberalism and illiberal religious identities a lot of 💩 would just go away.

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@shavixmir said
Generally speaking, as a socialist, I don’t support any group with a religious basis. Because they’re all mental.

And even though I do condemn Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians and their land-grab antics, that still doesn’t mean I support Hamas.

You can only oppress people for so long before things blow up. And this is going to lead to more oppression and more co ...[text shortened]...
The UN should have a peacekeeping force there…. But Israel refuses…

Israel is not a nice state.
but you have yet to condemn hamas/palestine for killing innocent people…sorry, you cant fly under the radar with me

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@AverageJoe1
My family and I lived in Israel for years and you never set foot anywhere near there, we see the right wing assswipes like Natan YAHOO trying to take over ALL the government there just like your god king Trump, so he can stop the legal proceedings against him, just like Trump is running for POTUS again SPECIFICALLY so he can squash all the charges against him. Of course that won't stop the STATE charges and he is more frightened of being found out he is nowhere near being a billionaire than going to prison so there are TWO separate state charges that will not go away just because he gets reelected, shudder to think.
About Israel, what we hated among other things was the way the Israeli government handled the water from the Jordan river, their biggest supply of water to Israel, they left the Palestinians with crap water so contaminated they couldn't grow crops or even wash with it,
The US government sponsored a water desalinasation plant that I think is finished and at least some Palestinians can get fresh water.
I remember going to a coffeehouse to play some music and a dude there was playing banjo and we got to talking and played some tunes on stage, but when the place closed down he went to his car and got two of the biggest frigging hand guns I ever saw, I asked him what was up about that.
It seems he was one of the residents of a village built on property taken illegally from the Palestinians and he had to protect himself going home.
So he loaded his two daughters, about 4 or 5 yo and I was thinking ok, if you have to live like that, that is one thing, but to subject your own family to the possibility of violence seemed to me a bridge too far.
That whole land grab deal was illegal and should never have started.
But I also see the other side where several countries have vowed to destroy Israel and that is not right either so the conflict goes on unchecked.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
My family and I lived in Israel for years and you never set foot anywhere near there, we see the right wing assswipes like Natan YAHOO trying to take over ALL the government there just like your god king Trump, so he can stop the legal proceedings against him, just like Trump is running for POTUS again SPECIFICALLY so he can squash all the charges against him. ...[text shortened]... untries have vowed to destroy Israel and that is not right either so the conflict goes on unchecked.
so you APROVE HAMAS/palestine of just out of the blue start killing innocent people and taking hostages?

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@Mott-The-Hoople
Where the FUK did you see me say that? I SAID Israel is way right wing and should not have started the settlements and I have friends on the Palestinian side and dear friends on the Israeli side also, by a set of coincidences, one family we would go over on the Palestinian side to visit moved to a town not 5 miles from us.
You going to start another game? I will play, just know I don't have a lot of time right now which is why it took some time to move and same with Average Joe.
And I just visited Marc, a dear friend from Israel, now living in Ithaca. It is not the people I am worried about it is their respective governments.

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@averagejoe1 said
You are right, I do not. I have just put a few things together, read some stuff, heard news that I trust, and granted, it is a muddy mess.
But suffice that I draw a lot conclusions from what I DO NOT hear , here on the Forum. I have put forth many points which are indisputable, but someone like Marauder will talk all around it, like the Veterans who Fought For Our ...[text shortened]... B to Iran, who today started a war with Israel. You both lose,, once again.
He is a not-lawyer.
There are no space monsters living hotels, my dude.

Stop taking drugs.

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@mott-the-hoople said
but you have yet to condemn hamas/palestine for killing innocent people…sorry, you cant fly under the radar with me
I always condemn the killing of civilians. No matter who’s doing it.

That’s my viewpoint on this and every other thread in which I’ve been asked this question.

No matter the conflict.
So, like the bombing of Nagasaki… I condemn it.

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@kevcvs57 said
Liberals support the long suffering Palestinian people, illiberal’s hate them because illiberal’s like yourself are stupid and easily conditioned to hate Muslims.
If illiberal’s would stop supporting Israel ‘right or wrong’ the Palestinians would not be forced to rely on the illiberal’s of Hamas for some sort of protection and self respect.
If everyone would reject illiberalism and illiberal religious identities a lot of 💩 would just go away.
All due respects, I cannot imagine getting mired in the politics of the east where they waive their hands or run around the streets all the time in dresses. Maniacal. The last I saw was Yasser Arafat on the other side, shaking, hands or something to that effect.. It gives me the creeps so you got me. I don’t understand anything about it so we’re not waste your time trying to make something up , y’all have at it

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@shavixmir said
I always condemn the killing of civilians. No matter who’s doing it.

That’s my viewpoint on this and every other thread in which I’ve been asked this question.

No matter the conflict.
So, like the bombing of Nagasaki… I condemn it.
Nothing like a clear disagreement. I am 100% happy that we bombed the hell out of that Japanese town and then the other one. Uh, did they not have it coming? And given just the metrics, I imagine maybe 100,000 people would’ve been killed on the ground within two months after we sent all of our men over there. Harry Truman was a very brave and courageous man. He actually stopped it at 100,000, and none of them were on our side. We figured we had lost enough. To the Japs.

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@mott-the-hoople said
so you APROVE HAMAS/palestine of just out of the blue start killing innocent people and taking hostages?
See previous post.
Hey, may I make a statement to all, that this is what I mean about cultures being different. This is what Sonhouse is writing about. Thank you Sunhouse for proving my point.

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@shavixmir said
I always condemn the killing of civilians. No matter who’s doing it.

That’s my viewpoint on this and every other thread in which I’ve been asked this question.

No matter the conflict.
So, like the bombing of Nagasaki… I condemn it.
Here is your post….

“Generally speaking, as a socialist, I don’t support any group with a religious basis. Because they’re all mental.

And even though I do condemn Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians and their land-grab antics, that still doesn’t mean I support Hamas.

You can only oppress people for so long before things blow up. And this is going to lead to more oppression and more couped up anger.

The UN should have a peacekeeping force there…. But Israel refuses…

Israel is not a nice state.”

show me where you condemned hamas/palestine
you say one thing but your actions say you are lying

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@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
Where the FUK did you see me say that? I SAID Israel is way right wing and should not have started the settlements and I have friends on the Palestinian side and dear friends on the Israeli side also, by a set of coincidences, one family we would go over on the Palestinian side to visit moved to a town not 5 miles from us.
You going to start another game? ...[text shortened]... l, now living in Ithaca. It is not the people I am worried about it is their respective governments.
I dont believe a word you say.

why would I start another game? I proved my point!

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@Mott-The-Hoople
So you don't believe we lived in Israel?
Looks to me like you were using stockfish, the knight fork seemed a bit to complex for you. I play a lot of one minute games on Lichess, also as sonhouse there too.
Try that sometime. You figure you are better than me after two years absent from long term games. Try another, you get white. One game doesn't prove anything.
Over the board would be even better.

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@shavixmir said
There are no space monsters living hotels, my dude.

Stop taking drugs.
These terse comments lend nothing to nothin to nothing