Why do liberals support Hamas?

@averagejoe1 said
Nothing like a clear disagreement. I am 100% happy that we bombed the hell out of that Japanese town and then the other one. Uh, did they not have it coming? And given just the metrics, I imagine maybe 100,000 people would’ve been killed on the ground within two months after we sent all of our men over there. Harry Truman was a very brave and courageous man. He actually stopped it at 100,000, and none of them were on our side. We figured we had lost enough. To the Japs.

@mott-the-hoople said
Here is your post….

“Generally speaking, as a socialist, I don’t support any group with a religious basis. Because they’re all mental.

And even though I do condemn Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians and their land-grab antics, that still doesn’t mean I support Hamas.

You can only oppress people for so long before things blow up. And this is going to le ...[text shortened]... ow me where you condemned hamas/palestine
you say one thing but your actions say you are lying [/b]

Here is an alternative take on “the Palestinian attack on Israel”.

https://socialistworker.co.uk/international/why-palestinians-are-right-to-resist-israel/

Note how they emphasise Hamas taking military targets and the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinan towns, compared to the main news channels and right-wing press which may touch on the subject, but firmly favours Israel in the conflict.

@AverageJoe1
Trump and Ramaswamy both said "Israel he a right to defend itself" just like Biden and all the other establishment a holes. Republicans seem to be sucking up to the Jews for campaign money or they don't give a crap about the people that Israelis harassed at that Mosque.

Apparently Palestinians have no right to defend themselves.
Only Israel does? Why the omission of the Mosque attack by Jewish settlers? More pro Israel propaganda from the corp news media, Biden, Trump and Ramaswamy. I will not vote for any of them.

@metal-brain said
Apparently Palestinians have no right to defend themselves.

@shavixmir said
So, you have no inherent problem with the targetting and killing of civilians.

I guess it’s view point. Not one that will get you a nobel prize, me thinks.

@averagejoe1 said
The war room discussions were about bombing a city. Not people.
Sorry your idea would be to see hundreds of thousands of our fathers endure torturous deaths for years. Anyway, we we elected to kill japs easily, in lesser numbers. Only 80k in Hiroshima.
Pretty cool, in my opinion. And Truman studied the decision big time, you didn’t, or you would have reached same conclusion

@averagejoe1 said
All due respects, I cannot imagine getting mired in the politics of the east where they waive their hands or run around the streets all the time in dresses. Maniacal. The last I saw was Yasser Arafat on the other side, shaking, hands or something to that effect.. It gives me the creeps so you got me. I don’t understand anything about it so we’re not waste your time trying to make something up , y’all have at it

@metal-brain said
@AverageJoe1
Trump and Ramaswamy both said "Israel he a right to defend itself" just like Biden and all the other establishment a holes. Republicans seem to be sucking up to the Jews for campaign money or they don't give a crap about the people that Israelis harassed at that Mosque.

Apparently Palestinians have no right to defend themselves.
Only Israel does? Why th ...[text shortened]... el propaganda from the corp news media, Biden, Trump and Ramaswamy. I will not vote for any of them.

@shavixmir said
I don’t need to condemn Hamas in every single post, as my opinion in the matter of killing civilians is widely known (even on this forum) and is inherent no matter the subject.

Like if we’re talking about raping babies. You don’t have to explain to me that you think it’s disgusting and that you condemn it. It’s naturally so.

So, Mott, when are you going to condemn the Israeli’s constant attacks on Palestians and the killing of their civilians?

@averagejoe1 said
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2018-06-11/ty-article-opinion/.premium/why-do-leftists-love-a-palestinian-cause-that-rejects-their-values/0000017f-e57a-d62c-a1ff-fd7bcc180000

You people are a confused mob. Maybe that is why you stick together like glue, because you cannot reason, and there is safety in numbers.
Time to get your signs out and catch a bus ...[text shortened]... is crap.

PS: How do y'all get off from work to go march iin DC? I would fire anyone doing that.

@mott-the-hoople said
“So, Mott, when are you going to condemn the Israeli’s constant attacks on Palestians and the killing of their civilians?”

point to what you refer to. you are making a broad statement.

I have only seen Israel retaliate for being attacked. Soon you will be condemning Israel for defending itself from this attack.

@shavixmir said
Only seen them retaliate???

The whole bloody illegal occupation?
The murdering of Palestinians by settlers?
Israeli incursions?

And… if it’s the killing of civilians you condemn, then surely whether it’s retaliatory or not is besides the point!

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/pulling-trigger-first-resort-palestinians-killed-israeli-arm ...[text shortened]... ttacks

Not all Israeli politicians agree with Netanyahoo’s incursions into Palestinian territory.

On a side note; Jeremy Corbyn X’d on X calling for a “ceasefire” but didn’t condemn the Hamas attack.

@mott-the-hoople said
a lib pulling the race card 😂