Why do liberals support Hamas?

@shavixmir said
No. I do not think Israel should surrender.
No. I don’t think the two-state solution is workable.
No. I disagree with any State identifying themselves by any religion or ethnicity.
Nope. I don’t agree with the concept of borders in their historical context.

What’s needed is a one-state solution, where everyone living in Israel and Palestine are equal citizens and live ...[text shortened]... orship.

At one point you can only look ahead and have to break with what was or should have been.

Two things of your skewed rationale jump out here.
Why in the world should any country identify themselves by which god and beliefs they believe in? I totally don't get that.
Then you say that you don't believe in borders**, but follow in the next sentence that they live in a state of lawfulness. Of course we all stipulate that you are pipe-dreaming about those 2 factions being peaceful, but how can you say 'no boundaries', but yet envelope the two groups into one state. Does the state have boundaries???? Borders?

** For the record, the very definition, the very concept, of a country is that it is defined by borders. Are you suggesting that Netherlands and Morrocco and Canada not have borders?

@shavixmir said
How can you not feel anger when thousands of children are being bombed, ripped to pieces, burned and murdered?

In 3 weeks: thousands of children!
In which fukking world is that acceptable?

Sometimes you right-wing morons are truly despicable. Crazy, nasty little men, with no sense of realism, no empathy, no understanding of human rights… why the fukk do you exist?
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It seems to me that the basis of your argument should be acted upon for the health of humanity.

They provoked the wrong people. Terrorist activities have been going on for decades. Im surprised that you are surprised that this the end result of their constant terrorism.

@averagejoe1 said
Two things of your skewed rationale jump out here.
Why in the world should any country identify themselves by which god and beliefs they believe in? I totally don't get that.
Then you say that you don't believe in borders**, but follow in the next sentence that they live in a state of lawfulness. Of course we all stipulate that you are pipe-dreaming about ...[text shortened]... s defined by borders. Are you suggesting that Netherlands and Morrocco and Canada not have borders?

I think you know Im with Shav on that point of borders. Borders are really not a good thing but it will take some decades for these to come down naturally. The world aint ready for that yet.

@shavixmir said
No. I do not think Israel should surrender.
No. I don’t think the two-state solution is workable.
No. I disagree with any State identifying themselves by any religion or ethnicity.
Nope. I don’t agree with the concept of borders in their historical context.

What’s needed is a one-state solution, where everyone living in Israel and Palestine are equal citizens and live ...[text shortened]... orship.

At one point you can only look ahead and have to break with what was or should have been.

God uses people, even vile ones like you to acheive his goals. What you are saying is in the bible but the world will not accept it yet.. Jerusalem is going to be the capital of the world. Maybe not in the way Christians or Jews think.

Maybe your point is closer to the the bible. If the UN and strong peace-keeping force is headquartered in Jerusalem there is going to be peace between the Jews and Palestinians and they will be forced to co-exist.

@averagejoe1 said

Why in the world should any country identify themselves by which god and beliefs they believe in? I totally don't get that.

Religion is an integral part of Jewish or Islamic life and Christians as well. So the state is influenced by religion.

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You just joined this site to come here and say that?

@averagejoe1 said
Two things of your skewed rationale jump out here.
Why in the world should any country identify themselves by which god and beliefs they believe in? I totally don't get that.
Then you say that you don't believe in borders**, but follow in the next sentence that they live in a state of lawfulness. Of course we all stipulate that you are pipe-dreaming about ...[text shortened]... s defined by borders. Are you suggesting that Netherlands and Morrocco and Canada not have borders?

Uhuh.

What is Israel? It’s a Jewish State. What don’t you get about that?

And yes, that on borders is exactly what I am proposing. Always have, always will.
NOT POSSIBLE!!! I hear you squeal… yet… the United States… is that not a step in such a direction? The EU… is that not a step in that direction? The UN… international treaties? Globalisation? The internet?

See? The future is developing under your very nose and yet you can’t smell it.

@rajk999 said
They provoked the wrong people. Terrorist activities have been going on for decades. Im surprised that you are surprised that this the end result of their constant terrorism.

I am not surprised by it. The Israelis have been acting so for decades. Either bombing or stealing land.

@rajk999 said
God uses people, even vile ones like you to acheive his goals. What you are saying is in the bible but the world will not accept it yet.. Jerusalem is going to be the capital of the world. Maybe not in the way Christians or Jews think.

Maybe your point is closer to the the bible. If the UN and strong peace-keeping force is headquartered in Jerusalem there is going to be peace between the Jews and Palestinians and they will be forced to co-exist.

Coercion is not a means to create peace and stability.

The urgency of the benefits is what needs to be kindled.

@rajk999 said
God uses people, even vile ones like you to acheive his goals. What you are saying is in the bible but the world will not accept it yet.. Jerusalem is going to be the capital of the world. Maybe not in the way Christians or Jews think.

Maybe your point is closer to the the bible. If the UN and strong peace-keeping force is headquartered in Jerusalem there is going to be peace between the Jews and Palestinians and they will be forced to co-exist.

There is no god. It’s a fairytale.

@shavixmir said
There is no god. It’s a fairytale.

The no-God put stuff in your head that is exactly what is in the Bible about Jerusalem. ...Lol.... that is how the no-God works, and that is how the peace will start.

Sometimes you right-wing morons are truly despicable. Crazy, nasty little men, with no sense of realism, no empathy, no understanding of human rights… why the fukk do you exist?

You say that we have no sense of realism.....Shall I bother dragging up one of a million websites how Conservatives are Realists, Liberals are Idealists.???? Why do you make such statements to cause us Realists to have to write to you as I am at this moment? I'm Busy, Shav. Actually, I created some jobs today. Busy..

Then you end your ramble with 'human rights'. Our resident expert is Shav on Human Rights. Shav says everyone is entitled to free housing as part of human rights. So he says we don't understand human rights, while trying to sell us on another thread that Humans have Rights to a free housing....heated!! Jesus Shav you fellers are touchy thse days.. And despicable, to quote a
phrase. Am I despicable to not beieve in giving free housing? Despicable?

The top 1% pay 42.5% of all income taxes. You and your sidekicks keep telling us you want us to pay more. That is a true statement. How can that be despicable when we support so many people? Shav.? And it IS us, Shav. The government has NO money. We pay. Who supports you? Remember, your govt has no money.

@rajk999 said
The no-God put stuff in your head that is exactly what is in the Bible about Jerusalem. ...Lol.... that is how the no-God works, and that is how the peace will start.

Fukking retard. Stick your god up your arse, whilst I use your bible as toilet paper.

@averagejoe1 said
You say that we have no sense of realism.....Shall I bother dragging up one of a million websites how Conservatives are Realists, Liberals are Idealists.???? Why do you make such statements to cause us Realists to have to write to you as I am at this moment? I'm Busy, Shav. Actually, I created some jobs today. Busy..

Then you end your ramble with 'human rig ...[text shortened]... Shav. The government has NO money. We pay. Who supports you? Remember, your govt has no money.

You,, dude, are not in the top 1% of ownership. The only top 10% you are in is the brainwashed trailer crowd of stupidity. And even then you’re not in the 1%.

And yes, you can take that as a compliment.