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Originally posted by generalissimo
what?
you're not aware of how things were done in the Old Testament?

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Originally posted by Melanerpes
you're not aware of how things were done in the Old Testament?
Where does it say anything about David and Solomon having harems of concubines?

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Originally posted by Melanerpes
you're not aware of how things were done in the Old Testament?
who said I wanted things to be like they were in the old testament?

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Originally posted by Melanerpes
you're not aware of how things were done in the Old Testament?
Was it like what they did to King Edward II in England?

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Originally posted by sh76
Where does it say anything about David and Solomon having harems of concubines?
Multiple wives seems common in the OT, but not concubines.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Multiple wives seems common in the OT, but not concubines.
and certainly not harems

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Originally posted by generalissimo
why not ignore this gay marriage nonsense and stick with the original definition of marriage?
Because, like I mentioned earlier, no such definition exists. It's all just made up to make your view of marriage sound more official.

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Originally posted by sh76
and certainly not harems
One of the benefits of being brought up a fundy Christian: I know my Bible (or Tanakh if you will).

1 kings 11:3

Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

2 Samuel 5:13 and 1 Chronicles 3:9

David had concubines.

QED

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Originally posted by telerion
One of the benefits of being brought up a fundy Christian: I know my Bible (or Tanakh if you will).

1 kings 11:3

Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

2 Samuel 5:13 and 1 Chronicles 3:9

David had concubines.

QED
Very interesting was the case involving David and Bathsheba. Was David ever taken to task for having multiple wives - or even for adding to his already large number? No - it was because of the specific way he went about snagging Bathsheba. The underlying sense is that having huge numbers of wives was in of itself perfectly acceptable (at least if you were a king).

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Originally posted by generalissimo
who said I wanted things to be like they were in the old testament?
You said you wanted to go back to the "original definition" of marriage. Do you wish to go even further back in time? Or is there a particular time period that you consider to be "ideal", and we can use that time's definition?

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Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
Why call it 'marriage' when referring to a life-time oath of fidelity between persons of the same sex,thus attempting to chenge both the generally accepeted connotation and denotation of that word?
Why not just give it another name but give it a similar status in law so far as physiological differences allow?
same-but-equal is discrimination.

for one thing, when does it really equal "equal"?

for another, the status of a marriage is a benefit.

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Originally posted by telerion
One of the benefits of being brought up a fundy Christian: I know my Bible (or Tanakh if you will).

1 kings 11:3

Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

2 Samuel 5:13 and 1 Chronicles 3:9

David had concubines.

QED
Darn, I should really dust off my Bible!

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Originally posted by telerion
One of the benefits of being brought up a fundy Christian: I know my Bible (or Tanakh if you will).

1 kings 11:3

Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

2 Samuel 5:13 and 1 Chronicles 3:9

David had concubines.

QED
i don't see why we can't have that today ...

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
i don't see why we can't have that today ...
You're free to get 300 concubines...

Nigerean musician Fela Kuti had 27 wives, but Nigerean law only permitted 12 wives. He therefore adopted a rotation system for his wives.

Later, he died of AIDS.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
You're free to get 300 concubines...

Nigerean musician Fela Kuti had 27 wives, but Nigerean law only permitted 12 wives. He therefore adopted a rotation system for his wives.

Later, he died of AIDS.
Suppose Kuti's fans started a church in the US that recognized Kuti's rotation system as a perfectly valid approach to marriage. Why (under the First Ammendment's position on religion) should the US government be allowed to discriminate against that church's definition of marriage?