@AverageJoe1 saidAre you sure? Trump threatened to nuke North Korea and they have nukes too. So your "because we have nukes " logic is flawed. Nukes do not deter threats, they deter being nuked.
Because WE have nuclear weapons. Peace through strength. Note that that phrase is one of the many phrases, such as self-reliance, that the liberals on this Forum never say.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/features/nuclear-threats-and-alerts-looking-cold-war-background
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. You have heard that before, right? People are too concerned with words like "they chanted death to America". 47 years ago. People are stupid.
@shippingtest saidChina threatened to nuke Japan several times.
As far as I know, China has never threatened any country with nuclear weapons. On the contrary, China was once threatened with nuclear strikes by two nations, and one of them even made concrete plans to carry it out.Want to guess which two countries those were?
https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/the-reason-why-china-threatens-to-nuke-japan-continuously/
Nuclear threats are actually more common than many people think.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/features/nuclear-threats-and-alerts-looking-cold-war-background
@shavixmir saidAre you being sarcastic? If you meant with nukes you have to say it.
How come China and Russia have never threatened Mongolia or the Philipines?
https://www.newsweek.com/china-threatens-philippines-consequences-over-south-china-sea-2120741
@shavixmir saidNo idea . Nothing they want? They could take them in a heartbeat
How come China and Russia have never threatened Mongolia or the Philipines?
The bottom 50% of taxpayers pay only 10% of income taxes. lucky guys
The top 10% of earners pay SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of taxes. 72%.
Hey, can we 'tax the rich' if they move away?
Just trying to make this stupid thread interesting.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou said the only reason the US hasn’t been threatened is because you have nukes.
No idea . Nothing they want? They could take them in a heartbeat
The bottom 50% of taxpayers pay only 10% of income taxes. lucky guys
The top 10% of earners pay SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of taxes. 72%.
Hey, can we 'tax the rich' if they move away?
Just trying to make this stupid thread interesting.
These countries don’t, so why aren’t they threatened?
@AverageJoe1 saidThis is not making the thread interesting it is a painfully obvious attempt to deflect...
No idea . Nothing they want? They could take them in a heartbeat
The bottom 50% of taxpayers pay only 10% of income taxes. lucky guys
The top 10% of earners pay SEVENTY TWO PERCENT of taxes. 72%.
Hey, can we 'tax the rich' if they move away?
Just trying to make this stupid thread interesting.
Having nukes and telling the world is a threat in itself (even if only intended as "retro-threat"😉
Now make your pointl.
@shavixmir said? I said above no idea. Don’t get you here. Chinee would have a REASON to attack us, don’t you see. Maybe to get beautiful seacoast,s, or the Rocky Mountains, or Yellowstone National Park, or four seasons, or the many many many many many things that we have that are not enjoyed in the wasteland of China.
You said the only reason the US hasn’t been threatened is because you have nukes.
These countries don’t, so why aren’t they threatened?
Just a few reasons to want our country. Note, that seem to have no ‘reason’ to want to attack the Netherlands. Nationalize the bicycle factories???😆
Give it up Shav. You have fallen into the trap of common sense.
You need to try another tack. Geez.
@Ponderable saidMy point just above. Can you believe Shav does not get it
This is not making the thread interesting it is a painfully obvious attempt to deflect...
Having nukes and telling the world is a threat in itself (even if only intended as "retro-threat"😉
Now make your pointl.
Regarding you saying that my thread is painful, it should be painful to all of the 1% who are paying so much to support many people some of whom are on this thread.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhy must you insult people not like you?
? I said above no idea. Don’t get you here. Chinee would have a REASON to attack us, don’t you see. Maybe to get beautiful seacoast,s, or the Rocky Mountains, or Yellowstone National Park, or four seasons, or the many many many many many things that we have that are not enjoyed in the wasteland of China.
Just a few reasons to want our country. Note, that seem ...[text shortened]... p Shav. You have fallen into the trap of common sense.
You need to try another tack. Geez.
The country is China. The people are Chinese.
You insist on making your own homemade insults. That's not intelligence.
@Metal-Brain
Key Fact Clarification
1,The website centerforsecuritypolicy.org, it only excerpts extreme remarks from ordinary internet users without any official statements from the Chinese government to back up its claims. It deliberately distorts online personal opinions as national policy to spread disinformation.
2,The so-called claim that "China issued nuclear threats against Japan" in the article on armscontrol.org is merely the author’s one-sided subjective interpretation. No official deterrence statements from China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs or Ministry of National Defense are cited.
3, Let me be more specific. There is only one country in the world that publicly imposed nuclear blackmail on China twice at the official level and drew up complete operational plans for nuclear strikes against China. Could you tell me which country it is?
@AverageJoe1 saidFunny how you paint China as a desolate wasteland out of sheer ignorance.
? I said above no idea. Don’t get you here. Chinee would have a REASON to attack us, don’t you see. Maybe to get beautiful seacoast,s, or the Rocky Mountains, or Yellowstone National Park, or four seasons, or the many many many many many things that we have that are not enjoyed in the wasteland of China.
Just a few reasons to want our country. Note, that seem ...[text shortened]... p Shav. You have fallen into the trap of common sense.
You need to try another tack. Geez.
China boasts diverse landforms from snow-capped plateaus, vast fertile plains, winding coastlines, towering mountains to abundant natural resources, four distinct seasons across different regions, countless world-famous national parks and breathtaking scenic spots far more varied than you could ever imagine. We have never craved to seize your nations’ land or scenery by force.
It is ironic that you fabricate absurd excuses about resource plunder to slander China as an aggressive invader, while ignoring the well-documented history: your own country once twice issued official nuclear threats against China and drafted detailed nuclear strike battle plans, attempting to bomb our homeland into ruins.
If territorial and resource greed is your so-called reason for war, which nation in modern history has repeatedly launched overseas wars, seized global resources and occupied foreign lands far and wide? It certainly is not China. Stop weaving biased, ridiculous lies to prop up your flawed argument.
@shippingtest saidYes, improper use of 'wasteland', meaning more a land none of us would like to live in. And I didn't say 'desolate', Im sure its inhabitants, not knowing any better, think it is just great. A chicken in every pot. How bout you tell us if you would rather enjoy life in the land of the free, or in China, depicted as follows:
Funny how you paint China as a desolate wasteland out of sheer ignorance.
China boasts diverse landforms from snow-capped plateaus, vast fertile plains, winding coastlines, towering mountains to abundant natural resources, four distinct seasons across different regions, countless world-famous national parks and breathtaking scenic spots far more varied than you could ev ...[text shortened]... de? It certainly is not China. Stop weaving biased, ridiculous lies to prop up your flawed argument.
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Too many rules, don't you know. You can't own land in China.. Downer. Restrictions to GOOGLE!!?!?!?!?!? wasteland. I wanna be a millionaire.
Ok let’s chat.
First, explain this.
How many Americans risk their lives on rafts to reach China? Then ask how many people from around the world risk everything to come to America. People’s feet are often the most honest vote.
Then read this. Hey, I didn’t write it…..
China
United States
Economy
China: World’s second-largest economy; extraordinary manufacturing capacity.
USA: World’s largest economy; leader in finance, technology, and innovation.
Political System
China: One-party rule under Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party. (Ouch! Dictator?!?)
USA:Constitutional republic with competitive elections and multiple parties.
Free Speech
China😕ignificant government restrictions on speech, media, and internet content.
USA: Broad protections for speech under the First Amendment.
Internet
China:Extensive censorship and monitoring. (OMG! No RedHotPawn?!)
USA😲pen internet with relatively few content restrictions imposed by government.
Innovation
China: Strong in manufacturing, infrastructure, electric vehicles, and some AI sectors.
USA: Home to many leading innovators such as Apple Inc., Microsoft, NVIDIA, and SpaceX.
Infrastructure
China: Modern high-speed rail and rapidly built infrastructure.
USA: Strong aviation, highways, ports, and utilities, though some infrastructure is aging.
Military
China: Large and rapidly modernizing military.
USA: Most powerful global military with extensive alliance network.
Immigration
China: Few people seek to immigrate permanently compared with Western countries.
USA: One of the world’s most desired destinations for immigrants.
Civil Liberties
China: Limited political dissent and organized opposition.
USA: Strong protections for religion, speech, press, and political opposition.
Standard of Living
China: Rising rapidly but still lower per capita income than the U.S.
USA: Higher average income and consumption levels.