@Metal-Brain saidTotal agreement. Trump would never pick a credible candidate to be part of his team. They have to be dumber than he is, or have no backbone to obsequiously echo everything he says.
@kmax87
How much better do you think JD Vance would be than Trump?
I am guessing not much better.
@no1marauder saidI think Rand Paul's political suicide has been greatly exaggerated.
No.
It's still political suicide within the GOP to oppose Trump on virtually any lssue nevermind support impeachment.
I have noticed that congress is picking their leaders before the new congressmen and congresswomen that were elected in this midterm election are in office in a couple of months.
I thought the people have spoken. Shouldn't the majority leaders be picked after the newly elected congresspeople are in office? It is not that I think we will not still get rabid Zionists as majority leaders, but voting for them now seems a bit undemocratic. Shouldn't Al Sayed get a vote?
@wildgrass saidThe danger, for Republicans, in bringing corruption charges is that they too would be implicated. My money is on Trump ‚withdrawing‘ for undisclosed ‚health reasons‘ before it comes to an impeachment. That way he can leave office without admitting he lost.
Certainly they don't want to get caught in the trap of only doing corruption investigations but we have no details on what the impeachment charges might be yet, because Congress has until this point refused to investigate anything. So, now they investigate.
and... what if there's something bad there? Not like a BJ in the office, but something really bad. The existing evi ...[text shortened]... in the Senate, because by gosh it'd be a much better two years moving forward if Trump wasn't there.
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@Soothfast saidIt‘ll be hard to puruse him in a dacha.
3) Trump can be pursued to the ends of the earth after he's termed out. Right now it's more important to go after Musk and other billionaires who have quite obviously committed serious crimes over the past couple years.
@kmax87 saidVance has too little experience of government to make a credible candidate. Less than a year in the senate before he was tipped to be VP, and not a single one of his bills passed, wouldn‘t cut it with the electorate. The party would be utterly stupid to run him ….
Total agreement. Trump would never pick a credible candidate to be part of his team. They have to be dumber than he is, or have no backbone to obsequiously echo everything he says.
Oh, wait, they ARE utterly stupid.
@Metal-Brain saidPaul voted against both impeachments of Trump. While opposing some MAGA policies, I'm not aware of a single vote he made in the Senate that prevented any from going into effect.
I think Rand Paul's political suicide has been greatly exaggerated.
I have noticed that congress is picking their leaders before the new congressmen and congresswomen that were elected in this midterm election are in office in a couple of months.
I thought the people have spoken. Shouldn't the majority leaders be picked after the newly elected congresspeople are in ...[text shortened]... s majority leaders, but voting for them now seems a bit undemocratic. Shouldn't Al Sayed get a vote?
"According to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), leaders in the United States House of Representatives are typically "elected by the [minority or majority] party caucus or conference at organizational meetings prior to the start of a new Congress." Candidates for leadership positions must receive a simple majority vote within their caucus or conference in order to win election to the role.
The only leadership position that receives a formal vote on the House floor is speaker of the House. The vote is held on the first day of a new session of congress, which usually takes place on January 3 of odd-numbered years. In order to win election as speaker, a candidate must receive a simple majority of votes among members who vote for a candidate by name. Per CRS, "the majority party’s candidate is typically elected on a party line vote."[18]"
https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_leadership_elections,_2025
It does seem a little strange.
@moonbus
Noticed that most American voters want Trump impeached. That means a clear majority of democrats want Trump impeached. Jeffries is not representing democrats.
https://truthout.org/articles/jeffries-says-dems-arent-thinking-about-trump-impeachment-at-this-moment/
Democrats in congress do not represent democrats or even most voters. They do not care what we want. The USA is not a real democracy.
@Metal-Brain saidWhy waste time on something that can't possibly succeed? They'd be better off addressing the cost of living which was the #1 reason Democrats trounced Republicans this year. Measures to end the war (if it's still going on), reduce gas prices and get rid of Trump's tariffs should be the top issues that the new Congress should concentrate on.
@moonbus
Noticed that most American voters want Trump impeached. That means a clear majority of democrats want Trump impeached. Jeffries is not representing democrats.
https://truthout.org/articles/jeffries-says-dems-arent-thinking-about-trump-impeachment-at-this-moment/
Democrats in congress do not represent democrats or even most voters. They do not care what we want. The USA is not a real democracy.
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@no1marauder saidHe has voiced opposition to specific trade measures or spending programs that he views as excessive or contrary to his libertarian philosophy as well as other things.
Paul voted against both impeachments of Trump. While opposing some MAGA policies, I'm not aware of a single vote he made in the Senate that prevented any from going into effect.
"According to the Congressional Research Service (CRS), leaders in the United States House of Representatives are typically "elected by the [minority or majority] party caucus or conference at ...[text shortened]... "
https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_leadership_elections,_2025
It does seem a little strange.
If votes are all that matter you should start a thread about it. That way I can bring up Senima and Manchin. Democrat votes for the Iraq war like Hillary and Biden. Oh, I just remembered.
https://www.randpaulreview.com/p/scared-republicans-now-want-to-end
It was not just Rand. Add Thom Tillis of North Carolina; Susan Collins of Maine; Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. Their political suicides were greatly exaggerated as well.
https://www.newsweek.com/list-of-republicans-who-backed-democratic-bid-to-end-donald-trump-iran-war-12486697
edit: I should have noticed Susan Collins and Tillis lost their midterm elections. So scratch them from the list. So Rand Paul and Lisa Murkowski survived.
@no1marauder saidWhy don't you just admit democrats are not going to change much of anything? Even when they do have the votes they get a couple of democrats to go against their own party. BTW, how do you feel about Manchin and Senima after doing just that?
Why waste time on something that can't possibly succeed? They'd be better off addressing the cost of living which was the #1 reason Democrats trounced Republicans this year. Measures to end the war (if it's still going on), reduce gas prices and get rid of Trump's tariffs should be the top issues that the new Congress should concentrate on.
@Metal-Brain saidTillis was forced out and replaced with a MAGA clone who got hammered in this election. Collins lost. Of the 7 Republicans Senators who voted for conviction in the second impeachment, only Murkowski has been able to stay in office.
He has voiced opposition to specific trade measures or spending programs that he views as excessive or contrary to his libertarian philosophy as well as other things.
If votes are all that matter you should start a thread about it. That way I can bring up Senima and Manchin. Democrat votes for the Iraq war like Hillary and Biden. Oh, I just remembered.
https://www.r ...[text shortened]... www.newsweek.com/list-of-republicans-who-backed-democratic-bid-to-end-donald-trump-iran-war-12486697
I'm not interested in a another round of your irrelevant "whataboutisms".
@no1marauder
I mentioned that in an edit of my last post. Note my correction.
Rand Paul and Murkowski still proved you wrong. Everybody makes mistakes. Don't let it get you down.
@no1marauder saidYou used the word whataboutism incorrectly. I proved you wrong.
Tillis was forced out and replaced with a MAGA clone who got hammered in this election. Collins lost. Of the 7 Republicans Senators who voted for conviction in the second impeachment, only Murkowski has been able to stay in office.
I'm not interested in a another round of your irrelevant "whataboutisms".
2 congresspeople suffered no political suicide.
@Metal-Brain saidThe OP referred to the "political future" of those who might support a possible third impeachment of Trump. If we go by previous results, it is indeed grim as 7 of 8 who did (Romney voted for the first impeachment) are now out of the Senate.
@no1marauder
I mentioned that in an edit of my last post. Note my correction.
Rand Paul and Murkowski still proved you wrong. Everybody makes mistakes. Don't let it get you down.