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    11 Jun '18 14:06
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/10/school-cuts-off-california-valedictorians-mic-when-she-mentions-alleged-sexual-assaults-on-campus

    School administrators reportedly tried to silence the valedictorian of Petaluma High School in Petaluma, California, when she went off-script and talked about alleged sexual assaults on the campus.

    What happened?

    Lulabel Seitz, 17, said administrators cut off her microphone about halfway through her speech to her graduating class, ABC News reported. She was about to say how the school allegedly fails to seriously consider victims’ assault reports.

    Seitz said she decided to publicly talk about being assaulted even though administrators allegedly pressured her to not mention it during her speech. They reportedly went as far as pulling her out of a class to give her a warning.

    “They made all these rules to prevent me from speaking,” Seitz told ABC News. “So I decided to use the opportunity to bring it up.”







    “They told me to be quiet; told me I can’t talk about it,” she continued. “I realized that this is a big injustice and needs to be spoken about.”

    About four minutes into her speech, Seitz began introducing the topic of sexual assaults. Administrators then allegedly cut the power to her mic.

    In a video of her speech, some audience members are heard chanting, “Let her speak!”

    Seitz decided to continue without a microphone, and later posted her full speech on YouTube. Instead of her #MeToo moment remaining a local issue, it has morphed into a national one.

    Petaluma City Schools gave ABC the following statement:


    Administrators and staff in Petaluma City Schools care deeply about the safety and well being of our students. Due to student privacy issues, we cannot and should not respond with specific information. We can say that when issues of sexual assault come to our attention, local law enforcement has initial jurisdiction and determines the course of action.

    When was she assaulted?

    Seitz planned to bring up her account of a student that assaulted her last fall, she told ABC News.

    Administrators did not suspend or expel her alleged assailant but instead pressured her to keep quiet.

    “They told me not to speak about it,” Seitz said.

    The decision to publicly air her story was not an easy one, Seitz told media
  2. Joined
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    11 Jun '18 14:07
    Women need to learn their place in liberal academia, just like they did back in the day being chained to a stove.
  3. Germany
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    11 Jun '18 19:48
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Women need to learn their place in liberal academia, just like they did back in the day being chained to a stove.
    I'm not surprised that a high school is "academia" for you.
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    11 Jun '18 20:071 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/10/school-cuts-off-california-valedictorians-mic-when-she-mentions-alleged-sexual-assaults-on-campus

    School administrators reportedly tried to silence the valedictorian of Petaluma High School in Petaluma, California, when she went off-script and talked about alleged sexual assaults on the campus.

    What happened?
    ...[text shortened]... it,” Seitz said.

    The decision to publicly air her story was not an easy one, Seitz told media
    " One of the alleged assaults Seitz planned to bring up during her speech was an attack she says happened to her last fall. She said a student assaulted her on school grounds.

    But administrators didn't suspend or expel the student, she said, and instead encouraged her to drop it.

    "They told me not to speak about it," she said.

    She said the incident was reported to police and the student, whom she didn't name, was arrested.

    Still, Seitz said throughout the process, administrators appeared to want to protect themselves, and not students.

    "Throughout my whole case, the administrators told me their jobs were on the line," she said. "They put their jobs before students, which is not how it should be." "

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/valedictorians-mic-cut-off-starts-mention-alleged-sexual/story?id=55770428

    The video she put on YouTube, showing the mic cut-off incident and then later, the speech in full can be seen here:

    YouTube
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    11 Jun '18 20:21
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Women need to learn their place in liberal academia, just like they did back in the day being chained to a stove.
    That's the conservative mantra.
    Woman's place is in the home.
  6. SubscriberSuzianne
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    11 Jun '18 20:25
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    That's the conservative mantra.
    "Woman's place is in the home."
    There, I fixed that for you.
  7. SubscriberWajoma
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    11 Jun '18 20:37
    Originally posted by @whodey
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/10/school-cuts-off-california-valedictorians-mic-when-she-mentions-alleged-sexual-assaults-on-campus

    School administrators reportedly tried to silence the valedictorian of Petaluma High School in Petaluma, California, when she went off-script and talked about alleged sexual assaults on the campus.

    What happened?
    ...[text shortened]... it,” Seitz said.

    The decision to publicly air her story was not an easy one, Seitz told media
    This is in the same 'kneeling for the anthem" category. You have a right to freedom of expression (regardless of your profession) but others do not have to provide you a platform.
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    11 Jun '18 21:321 edit
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    I'm not surprised that a high school is "academia" for you.
    For most in public education I can assure you, it is not.
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    11 Jun '18 21:33
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    This is in the same 'kneeling for the anthem" category. You have a right to freedom of expression (regardless of your profession) but others do not have to provide you a platform.
    Did I say they had to?

    No.

    Just pointing out the hypocrisy............again.
  10. Germany
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    11 Jun '18 21:38
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Did I say they had to?

    No.

    Just pointing out the hypocrisy............again.
    What's the "hypocrisy" here, exactly?
  11. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    12 Jun '18 01:07
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Did I say they had to?

    No.

    Just pointing out the hypocrisy............again.
    What hypocrisy?

    And what point are you making?
  12. Standard membershavixmir
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    12 Jun '18 04:10
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Women need to learn their place in liberal academia, just like they did back in the day being chained to a stove.
    I take it this comment is sarcasm and that you actually find it wrong that the girl’s mic was turned off.

    Good for you.
    A step in the direction of enlightenment!
  13. Zugzwang
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    12 Jun '18 05:561 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne to Whodey
    " One of the alleged assaults Seitz planned to bring up during her speech was an attack she says happened to her last fall. She said a student assaulted her on school grounds.

    But administrators didn't suspend or expel the student, she said, and instead encouraged her to drop it.

    "They told me not to speak about it," she said.

    She said ...[text shortened]... incident and then later, the speech in full can be seen here:

    [youtube]SWbFmi_lqdo[/youtube]
    Regarding issues of free speech, the situation may be complicated by the fact that this
    is a school whose students are mostly not yet adults by legal definition.
    (In this case, the 'woman silenced' is a 17 year old girl.)

    We usually accept that children are not entitled to the same rights of free speech as adults.
    We usually accept that schools may censor children's speech on account of their presumed immaturity.
    We extend greater protection to children on account of their presumed immaturity,
    which may include preventing them from hearing some forms of speech.

    Now Suzianne and I may believe that an audience of 16-18 year old students should be
    mature enough to listen to an unexpected talk about sexual assault, but it's a judgment call.
    The school can make a different judgment.

    While I may be sympathetic to Ms Seitz personally, I am not convinced that she had the
    same right to speak freely in a school setting as an adult would have away from the school.
  14. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    13 Jun '18 05:28
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    That's the conservative mantra.
    Woman's place is in the home.
    ... The number of conservatives that actually endorse this in the modern day is measured in the single percentages.

    Prove me wrong.
  15. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    13 Jun '18 05:29
    Let's all take a moment to remember, as well, that many liberals on this wbesite were fully supportive of Tommy Robinson being silenced.

    Do you support her being silenced to protect the privacy of those people who are involved?
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