Zelensky: Dictator has to continue war

@no1marauder said
Jimmy Carter bombed Iran?

Yes, in a vain effort to get the hostages back.

@Metal-Brain said
Yes, in a vain effort to get the hostages back.

There was a rescue mission, but I don't recall bombings.

Anyway, that would have been a justified response to the seizing of our embassy and the holding of our people hostage. Not that we should have allowed the Shah in our country.

@no1marauder said
There was a rescue mission, but I don't recall bombings.

Anyway, that would have been a justified response to the seizing of our embassy and the holding of our people hostage. Not that we should have allowed the Shah in our country.

"Not that we should have allowed the Shah in our country"

David Rockefeller talked Carter into it.
And if holding people hostage is a crime worthy of bombing then the Palestinian hostages Israel imprisoned was justification for Hamas to attack Israel. And that is just one example.

Contradictions dude. When you accept a BS propaganda narrative you accept contradictions that do not make any ethical sense. Then you try to rationalize the cognitive dissonance. It isn't working. Give up on it.

@Metal-Brain said
He doesn't want peace.
You didn't read the link I posted in my OP.
You are uninformed. Read a little dude.

Zelensky said he will not honor any peace agreement from his weapons supplier. He must think the UK will pick up where Trump leaves Zelensky with no more free weapons.

Trumps idea of peace is giving the Russians land they invaded and are occupying now. Also another condition is that they don't join NATO, who is Russia or America To decide who joins NATO is that not something that the NATO countries would VOTE on??? Trump is on Putin's side on this, it is as simple to see as the nose on your face. I still believe Putin and Trump are working together behind closed doors via the Phone. You are a disgrace to your own country in my opinion!!!

-VR

@Metal-Brain said
"Not that we should have allowed the Shah in our country"

David Rockefeller talked Carter into it.
And if holding people hostage is a crime worthy of bombing then the Palestinian hostages Israel imprisoned was justification for Hamas to attack Israel. And that is just one example.

Contradictions dude. When you accept a BS propaganda narrative you accept contradict ...[text shortened]... thical sense. Then you try to rationalize the cognitive dissonance. It isn't working. Give up on it.

AFAIK, they didn't indiscriminately bomb Iran; they attempted to rescue hostages.

The Palestinians are justified to resist Israeli occupation and oppression by force if necessary. They are not justified in violating the rules of war by deliberately targeting civilians for murder and/or hostage taking.

You still haven't been able to show any contradictions in my views except by lying about them.

@no1marauder said
AFAIK, they didn't indiscriminately bomb Iran; they attempted to rescue hostages.

The Palestinians are justified to resist Israeli occupation and oppression by force if necessary. They are not justified in violating the rules of war by deliberately targeting civilians for murder and/or hostage taking.

You still haven't been able to show any contradictions in my views except by lying about them.

You said this:

"The Syrian People were justified to rise up to overthrow a dictator; other nations were not justified in interfering in that country's internal affairs"

Once again, the USA interfered in that country's internal affairs by supporting Al Qaeda terrorist to overthrow Syria......and......that is what the Iranian people did when they overthrew the Shah of Iran. He was a brutal dictator puppet of the USA.

Saudi Arabia is a dictatorship. By your logic we should invade that kingdom and change the regime. That will not happen though. SA is an ally of the USA. That is your contradiction. Our nation tolerates brutal dictators all of the time. It makes no difference if they are evil. All that matters is that it is in the interest of the US regime to ally with evil people. The Saudi Kingdom plays ball with the USA.

Now stop denying your hypocritical stance of invading select dictators while not only tolerating them but installing them in power like the USA did in Iran and Chile.

@Very-Rusty said
Trumps idea of peace is giving the Russians land they invaded and are occupying now. Also another condition is that they don't join NATO, who is Russia or America To decide who joins NATO is that not something that the NATO countries would VOTE on??? Trump is on Putin's side on this, it is as simple to see as the nose on your face. I still believe Putin and Trump are work ...[text shortened]... er behind closed doors via the Phone. You are a disgrace to your own country in my opinion!!!

-VR

What peace? There is no peace agreement. And why do you think a peace deal will ever be reached? Just because Trump ran on that promise? LOL!

Yeah, right. All the sudden you are willing to take the word of a known liar. Trump made plenty of promises he did not keep. Democrats are always saying what a liar Trump is and not to believe him about anything.....but now you choose to believe him. LOL

@Metal-Brain said
What peace? There is no peace agreement. And why do you think a peace deal will ever be reached? Just because Trump ran on that promise? LOL!

Yeah, right. All the sudden you are willing to take the word of a known liar. Trump made plenty of promises he did not keep. Democrats are always saying what a liar Trump is and not to believe him about anything.....but now you choose to believe him. LOL

You best re-read what I said. I never agreed with Trumpster never will, he nothing but a B.S.'er and Liar. He is going to ruin you government not FIX IT as he claims. I always said you can tell when the Trumpster is lying his lips are moving!!!

To add to what I said; to the world Trumpster is a bully!!! Many Americans are not sorry they Voted for him, too late and I predicted it would happen and we are only about 40 odd days in.

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
You best re-read what I said. I never agreed with Trumpster never will, he nothing but a B.S.'er and Liar. He is going to ruin you government not FIX IT as he claims. I always said you can tell when the Trumpster is lying his lips are moving!!!

To add to what I said; to the world Trumpster is a bully!!! Many Americans are not sorry they Voted for him, too late and I predicted it would happen and we are only about 40 odd days in.

-VR

There will be no peace agreement under Trump.
He has you democrats fooled.

@Metal-Brain said
There will be no peace agreement under Trump.
He has you democrats fooled.

@Metal-Brain,
Well named my friend and I use the word loosely. How many times must you be told I am a Proud Canadian we will NEVER become the 51rst state. Too much fun beating you guys at Hockey!!! 😛 😉

Trump can't make up his mind on what he is doing, most disorganized excuse for a President for a second term!@

I bet he tries for 3rd Term which will go against the constitution, providing he is still above ground.

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
@Metal-Brain,
Well named my friend and I use the word loosely. How many times must you be told I am a Proud Canadian we will NEVER become the 51rst state. Too much fun beating you guys at Hockey!!! 😛 😉

Trump can't make up his mind on what he is doing, most disorganized excuse for a President for a second term!@

I bet he tries for 3rd Term which will go against the constitution, providing he is still above ground.

-VR

Canada is a colony of the British Empire. King Charles is your head of State. Your country has never had sovereignty. Only 9.7% of the total land of Canada is privately owned while the rest is Crown Land.

@Metal-Brain said
Canada is a colony of the British Empire. King Charles is your head of State. Your country has never had sovereignty. Only 9.7% of the total land of Canada is privately owned while the rest is Crown Land.

The King at this point is a figure head only has nothing to do with our Government.

How can you not know that? You think you know everything but you don't.

Also, what does the King have to do with the Trumpster trying to make Canada the 51rst State? Who's side do you think that the England would take? 😉

China has said it will fight any kind of war Trump wants to fight, they are not afraid of him. He wants to be careful with the Chinese they don't play games!!

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
The King at this point is a figure head only has nothing to do with our Government.

How can you not know that? You think you know everything but you don't.

Also, what does the King have to do with the Trumpster trying to make Canada the 51rst State? Who's side do you think that the England would take? 😉

China has said it will fight any kind of war Trump wants t ...[text shortened]... , they are not afraid of him. He wants to be careful with the Chinese they don't play games!!

-VR

LOL!
That is what they say he is in the UK. Why does every president of the USA go to the UK to kiss the Monarchy's ass by bowing down to them?

If you believe the kingdom of the UK gave up power voluntarily you are a dope. Nobody gives up that much power by choice. They simply found a way to control their colonies from behind the scenes. Propaganda and buying off politicians to run their empire for them.

You don't even own most of your land. Some figure head. Don't be naive.

@Metal-Brain said
LOL!
That is what they say he is in the UK. Why does every president of the USA go to the UK to kiss the Monarchy's ass by bowing down to them?

If you believe the kingdom of the UK gave up power voluntarily you are a dope. Nobody gives up that much power by choice. They simply found a way to control their colonies from behind the scenes. Propaganda and buying off poli ...[text shortened]... n their empire for them.

You don't even own most of your land. Some figure head. Don't be naive.

LOL.....Metal Brain appropriately named. I don't see anyone making any claims on our land, just the CLOWN TRUMPSTER thinking he can annex it with tariff's. He better be careful with the Chinese or you'll have learn to speak Chinese down the road. They are not afraid of the U.S. in fact Trumpster was correct about one thing he said in his Address to the Nation that was more like a Trumpster rally. America is the laughing stock of the world sadly, what a fall from being the most powerful Nation on Earth.

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
The King at this point is a figure head only has nothing to do with our Government.

How can you not know that? You think you know everything but you don't.

Also, what does the King have to do with the Trumpster trying to make Canada the 51rst State? Who's side do you think that the England would take? 😉

China has said it will fight any kind of war Trump wants t ...[text shortened]... , they are not afraid of him. He wants to be careful with the Chinese they don't play games!!

-VR

I think you have enough to worry about where you’re at, don't you? You can’t even get to 2% spending for your own protection, maybe in a few years. We don’t want you as a state, it was a put down on your sht leader. How about you do you and we’ll do us and let’s see who comes out ahead.