Zelensky: Dictator has to continue war

@no1marauder said
For one thing, he could insist on face to face negotiations between Russian and Ukranian officials to come to terms to end the war and stop his counterproductive practice of excluding the latter.

He will......after arms from us are cut off.
Where will Ukraine get weapons from then?

It is all about motivating Zelensky to seriously pursue a peace deal. He will not do that with free US weapons forever. The Ukraine war will end in a peace deal or it will end with the end of Ukraine as a country. Surely you must know that. You already acknowledged Ukraine cannot win the war.

You want to give war a chance for what goal? A better peace deal? You have not even seen a first peace deal. You are just freaking out because you think Trump will give concessions to Russia because of mere talk. Trump has no control over Putin and Putin has no control over Trump. Trump asked for a cease fore and do you know what Russia did? They bombed the crap out of Ukraine.

Putin does not trust Trump at all. If Trump asks for something without an agreement Putin will do the opposite to show he is not a fool.

@no1marauder said
IF Russia is so assured of winning even more territory, why are they even interested in peace talks?

Your idea that Ukraine will simply surrender is ridiculous. They could have done so any time in the last three years. Yet they're still fighting and Russian gains have been minimal since the first few months (heck last I heard, Ukranian troops hold a slice of Russia).

You don't want peace, you want Putin to win.

To save lives and money. Something you do not care about. You want to trade money and lives for a mere possibility of peace later with terms you have blind faith in that will be better. Not that you have any peace deal to compare it to.

Your position seems to be F peace now and sacrifice lives and money for a peace deal later. All over the mere perception a peace deal now will be unfavorable. In other words, F peace because of talk you don't like.

Newsflash: There is no peace deal. Perceptions seem to mean everything to you.
Trump is talking about peace so you are against it. You view dying soldiers like pawns on a chess board but real people are dying and you seem to be a sociopath. You want the dying to continue because you don't know any of the people that are dying and losing limbs.

@no1marauder said
When Biden got Putin to release an American held on ridiculous drug charges in exchange for a Russian criminal, right wingers screamed and complained. https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/politics/russian-prisoner-swap-brittney-griner-explainer/index.html

When Trump does it, it shows how
manly" he is.

Yes. the President of the Ukraine should be included in talks meant to end a war started by a Russian invasion of his country.

You resorted to "whataboutism". And I don't recall right wingers complaining about that at all. You must be reading democrat propaganda. One or two people complain and it is all right wingers. Get real.

Trump was right. You support Al Qaeda and ISIS over Assad.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-prophetic-donald-trump-syria-decade-ago

It was the USA that intervened in Syria. Russia was killing terrorists in a counter intervention. If the CIA is not supporting Al Qaeda and Isis they are supporting neo Nazis in Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254217.shtml

@Metal-Brain said
Putin is not a dictator. Zelensky is.
Putin was elected.

Only Because Putin Jailed his opponent and later had him killed.

There cannot be an election in a War Zone, do you not know anything?

-VR

@Metal-Brain said
You are pretending Ukraine has a choice. Ukraine is losing the war badly. Do you want the war to continue so Ukraine loses even more land to Russia?

I this why Russia had to bring in the Koreans to help them??

You really make yourself look silly almost every statement you make.

-VR

@Metal-Brain said
A just war. A preventable war.

Preventable war. You mean like if Z had just caved in the day the barbarian Putin attacked and said here are the keys to the city and let him have all of Ukraine.
You will go to your dying day ( which I only hope is soon) saying Putin doesn't have any plans to rebuild the Soviet empire.

@Very-Rusty said
I this why Russia had to bring in the Koreans to help them??

You really make yourself look silly almost every statement you make.

-VR

Russia and NK have a treaty. And nobody forced those north Korean soldiers to fight. They were volunteers.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/nx-s1-5011604/leaders-of-russia-and-north-korea-sign-pact-indicating-a-deeper-cooperation

You are ill informed. Start learning.

@Very-Rusty said
Only Because Putin Jailed his opponent and later had him killed.

There cannot be an election in a War Zone, do you not know anything?

-VR

You have no evidence of that. There is no incentive for Putin to kill a person he had imprisoned. He was no threat in prison. What would Putin be afraid of? Letters from prison?

Putin is so powerful he cannot take his prisoner's letters? You are silly.

@sonhouse said
Preventable war. You mean like if Z had just caved in the day the barbarian Putin attacked and said here are the keys to the city and let him have all of Ukraine.
You will go to your dying day ( which I only hope is soon) saying Putin doesn't have any plans to rebuild the Soviet empire.

No you turd. Zelensky knew Russia was going to invade and did nothing to prevent it.

https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-reveals-why-he-didnt-warn-his-citizens-russian-invasion-1734268

Why didn't he warn His Citizens of Russian Invasion? This is what he said:

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he strategically downplayed the impending Russian invasion to prevent a financial panic that he says would have resulted in his country swiftly falling to the Kremlin."

So he knew. Why didn't he try to prevent the invasion instead of let it happen? All he had to do was remove the constitutional amendment enshrining NATO membership and assure Russia it would not join NATO. Russian diplomats warned about that many times. It was well known in government circles. They knew and did nothing.

Are you starting to get this through your thick skull? Our government wanted Russia to invade Ukraine. It was like a trap that was set for Russia, but they underestimated Russia and the ineffectiveness of the sanctions imposed on them. But it worked in keeping Russia too busy in Ukraine to defend Syria from US invasion by proxy using Al Qaeda and ISIS.

Do you ever ask yourself why our government supported Al Qaeda in Syria? Al Qaeda was supposed to be the evil bad guys, remember? You never question anything our government does, do you?

I am waiting for some idiot to say "he is not Al Qaeda anymore, he is Al Nusra". As if that is better.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RP2HO/

How do you ignore facts like this? Al Nusra is linked to Al Qaeda. Are we friends with terrorists now?

@Metal-Brain said
You have no evidence of that. There is no incentive for Putin to kill a person he had imprisoned. He was no threat in prison. What would Putin be afraid of? Letters from prison?

Putin is so powerful he cannot take his prisoner's letters? You are silly.

Of course the guy was threat he was running against him in the up coming election. He jailed him and later had him killed, do you live in a box?

-VR

@Metal-Brain said
Russia and NK have a treaty. And nobody forced those north Korean soldiers to fight. They were volunteers.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/nx-s1-5011604/leaders-of-russia-and-north-korea-sign-pact-indicating-a-deeper-cooperation

You are ill informed. Start learning.

Actually Putin asked the Koreans for help as his military couldn't do the job. He was going to take it over in less than 10 days here we are 3 plus years later. Putin sounds a lot like King Trump and king Trump sounds much like Putin they are both going to have the world against them. I believe he has managed to turn China against him now, as they said they would fight him in a tariff war or any other war he wanted to start with them. Not a good sign. China doesn't make idle threats like King Trump.

-VR

@Metal-Brain said
No you turd. Zelensky knew Russia was going to invade and did nothing to prevent it.

https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-reveals-why-he-didnt-warn-his-citizens-russian-invasion-1734268

Why didn't he warn His Citizens of Russian Invasion? This is what he said:

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he strategically downplayed the impending Russian invasion to ...[text shortened]... w do you ignore facts like this? Al Nusra is linked to Al Qaeda. Are we friends with terrorists now?

Did nothing to prevent it.
So exactly how do you stop a murdering barbarian like Putin from stopping an invasion?
What the FUUK drugs are you on anyway? That is like how does Panama or Greenland stop OUR invasion?
You are a commie Putin front so just move to Moscow and be done with it, where you would be hailed as a hero.

@Very-Rusty said
Of course the guy was threat he was running against him in the up coming election. He jailed him and later had him killed, do you live in a box?

-VR

Putin denied it. Do you live in a box?

What other conspiracy theories do you want people to believe? Is Trump Putin's puppet? That is another one that I hear a lot. All over mere talk of a peace deal in the Ukraine war. Just give war a chance, right?

@Very-Rusty said
Actually Putin asked the Koreans for help as his military couldn't do the job. He was going to take it over in less than 10 days here we are 3 plus years later. Putin sounds a lot like King Trump and king Trump sounds much like Putin they are both going to have the world against them. I believe he has managed to turn China against him now, as they said they would fight hi ...[text shortened]... wanted to start with them. Not a good sign. China doesn't make idle threats like King Trump.

-VR

Stop your lying. Russia has a defense pact with NK. The NK soldiers were volunteers. Russia got help in the war and Kim is getting experienced military people that live through it. Win/win.

Next time announce you have a conspiracy theory when posting them.

@sonhouse said
Did nothing to prevent it.
So exactly how do you stop a murdering barbarian like Putin from stopping an invasion?
What the FUUK drugs are you on anyway? That is like how does Panama or Greenland stop OUR invasion?
You are a commie Putin front so just move to Moscow and be done with it, where you would be hailed as a hero.

Talk. Simply talk about grievances that exist instead of denying them.
Don't be an idiot. There are ways to avoid war. NATO was a big part of it. Pull your head out of your ass. I know you want to believe the propaganda that you cannot reason with Putin because he is like Hitler or other such nonsense, but that is just an excuse for wanting an invasion.

The USA wanted an invasion. They wanted to keep Russia busy in Ukraine so they could take over Syria. Russia was preventing the overthrow of Assad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

The USA was conspiring to overthrow Assad by supporting terrorists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

Sorry to confuse you with facts.