Zelensky Says No Elections in Ukraine

@shavixmir said
Well MB, care to answer?

The same way they always do.
Why would war make elections unfair?

@metal-brain said
The same way they always do.
Why would war make elections unfair?

God damn.
Again: a significant portion of the country is under Russian rule, hundreds of thousands of people have fled to other countries, a significant portion of the men over 18 are fighting at the front lines, all resources are being put into fighting a larger enemy force and many cities are being bombed.

How do you hold free and fair elections in that situation?

“The same way they always do.”

That’s your fukking answer?
You do comprehend why people think you are moronic, don’t you?

Edit: god damn. Holy hell. God damn.
Jesus you are stupid.

@shavixmir said
God damn.
Again: a significant portion of the country is under Russian rule, hundreds of thousands of people have fled to other countries, a significant portion of the men over 18 are fighting at the front lines, all resources are being put into fighting a larger enemy force and many cities are being bombed.

How do you hold free and fair elections in that situation?
...[text shortened]... ple think you are moronic, don’t you?

Edit: god damn. Holy hell. God damn.
Jesus you are stupid.

Simple. Mail in voting.
You liberals made it normal. Now you don't like it?

@vivify said
The U.S. also wasn't invaded in WW2 nor was American territory annexed. Not comparable.

Japanese forces occupied some of the Aleutian Islands, which belong to Alaska. One of my uncles was a fighter pilot; he flew missions in the Aleutians to reclaim them. That part of the world is known as the Cradle of Storms. He said the U.S. lost more pilots to weather than to Japanese fire.

Just sayin'.

@moonbus said
Japanese forces occupied some of the Aleutian Islands, which belong to Alaska. One of my uncles was a fighter pilot; he flew missions in the Aleutians to reclaim them. That part of the world is known as the Cradle of Storms. He said the U.S. lost more pilots to weather than to Japanese fire.

Just sayin'.

Alaska didn't become a state until 1959.

@metal-brain said
Simple. Mail in voting.
You liberals made it normal. Now you don't like it?

1. I’m not a liberal.
2. How? How the hell are you going to secure safe elections, counting, etc. when cities are being bombed? When hundreds of thousands of people have fled, when parta of the country are under enemy control?

You think the Russians are going to respect the postal delivery service or something?

Seriously. Get a grip on reality lad.

@shavixmir said
I’m not a liberal.

He doesn't mean liberal in the classic sense of the word, he means "liberal" in how it's used by Americans to denote the left.

@metal-brain said
Are you claiming there are no occupations during civil wars?

Stop paraphrasing people!

You ALWAYS get it wrong.

@shavixmir said
1. I’m not a liberal.
2. How? How the hell are you going to secure safe elections, counting, etc. when cities are being bombed? When hundreds of thousands of people have fled, when parta of the country are under enemy control?

You think the Russians are going to respect the postal delivery service or something?

Seriously. Get a grip on reality lad.

Are you claiming soldiers cannot get mail to their loved ones?

@shavixmir said
Note: Metal Brain is not answering the question how the Ukraine can hold free and fair elections during a war.

The US and its allies invaded Iraq in 2003 and removed the then-dictator Saddam Hossein from power occupied its territory and installed an interim government of Preference. Since then the elections were held under US occupation in the Iraq territory.

@vivify said
He doesn't mean liberal in the classic sense of the word, he means "liberal" in how it's used by Americans to denote the left.

I have no idea what that means.
Even the left in the US are capitalist pig fukkers, as far as I’m concerned.

@metal-brain said
Are you claiming soldiers cannot get mail to their loved ones?

No. No I am not.

But a free and fair election is more than just sending a ballot.
And then there’s counting. Would you count votes with bombs falling on your head?
Hundreds of thousands of displaced people.
Costs.
Etc.

The end of the line of this debate is that you are wrong. What you want is not realistic; not in the real world anyways.
Most countries form a wartime government to look after matters of urgency. Or the military steps in to run things.

You seemingly have no idea about the financial and organisational size of a national election. Nor what it’s like to live in a warzone. Nor any grasp of history.

@shavixmir said
No. No I am not.

But a free and fair election is more than just sending a ballot.
And then there’s counting. Would you count votes with bombs falling on your head?
Hundreds of thousands of displaced people.
Costs.
Etc.

The end of the line of this debate is that you are wrong. What you want is not realistic; not in the real world anyways.
Most countries form a wa ...[text shortened]... onal size of a national election. Nor what it’s like to live in a warzone. Nor any grasp of history.

So counting ballots is too dangerous during war? I suppose it is too dangerous for plumbers to be working in your house too. War does not prevent people from doing necessary things.

You are being silly. You cannot complain about mail in ballots because you defended it for so long, so now you have desperately resorted to claiming counting ballots is too dangerous. That is retarded. Processing mail is not too dangerous while counting ballots is? LOL!

You have backed yourself into the silly corner. 😆

@metal-brain said
So counting ballots is too dangerous during war? I suppose it is too dangerous for plumbers to be working in your house too. War does not prevent people from doing necessary things.

You are being silly. You cannot complain about mail in ballots because you defended it for so long, so now you have desperately resorted to claiming counting ballots is too dangerous. That ...[text shortened]... too dangerous while counting ballots is? LOL!

You have backed yourself into the silly corner. 😆

You really are ignorant, aren’t you?

@metal-brain said
So counting ballots is too dangerous during war?

What you're saying is that you can't see why a free and fair election can't be held when an invading power is actively dropping bombs and killing citizens of that country.

Correct?